Re: Fkiws with destination port 0 and TCP SYN flag set

2015-06-17 Thread Maqbool Hashim
Mark Milhollan Sent: 17 June 2015 15:05 To: NANOG list Subject: Re: Fkiws with destination port 0 and TCP SYN flag set On Wed, 17 Jun 2015, Maqbool Hashim wrote: >Finally I don't see how it could be, but be interested to hear peoples >thoughts, no legitimate application could be

Re: Fkiws with destination port 0 and TCP SYN flag set

2015-06-17 Thread Mark Milhollan
On Wed, 17 Jun 2015, Maqbool Hashim wrote: >Finally I don't see how it could be, but be interested to hear peoples >thoughts, no legitimate application could be generating this traffic >could it? I mean I don't see what use an application could make of >such a TCP conversation. Discarding net

Re: Fkiws with destination port 0 and TCP SYN flag set

2015-06-17 Thread Roland Dobbins
On 17 Jun 2015, at 13:56, Maqbool Hashim wrote: Any advice on this aspect would be great, unless considered off topic. NANOG isn't really the right alias for this sort of thing. TCP port-scanning on TCP/0 is a common reconnaissance mechanism. Suggest you take this to a more appropriate alia

Re: Fkiws with destination port 0 and TCP SYN flag set

2015-06-17 Thread Maqbool Hashim
bunch of reset + ack packets being received from the destination hosts. Regards, MH From: NANOG on behalf of Maqbool Hashim Sent: 17 June 2015 10:54 To: Roland Dobbins; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Fkiws with destination port 0 and TCP SYN flag set Agre

Re: Fkiws with destination port 0 and TCP SYN flag set

2015-06-17 Thread Maqbool Hashim
RSPAN support on these switches and no netflow :( From: NANOG on behalf of Roland Dobbins Sent: 17 June 2015 10:44 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Fkiws with destination port 0 and TCP SYN flag set On 17 Jun 2015, at 11:34, Maqbool Hashim wrote: > W

Re: Fkiws with destination port 0 and TCP SYN flag set

2015-06-17 Thread Pavel Odintsov
rt in the original SYN packet due to the fact >> that we don't have all the packets. >> >> It's actually going to be difficult to get the access and procedural sign >> off etc. to run tcpdump on the machines involved. What might be easier is >> to set u

Re: Fkiws with destination port 0 and TCP SYN flag set

2015-06-17 Thread Maqbool Hashim
Hmm, no flags set in your output though? From: Pavel Odintsov Sent: 17 June 2015 10:44 To: Maqbool Hashim Cc: Marcin Cieslak; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Fkiws with destination port 0 and TCP SYN flag set Hello! Looks like it's silly hping3 flood

Re: Fkiws with destination port 0 and TCP SYN flag set

2015-06-17 Thread Roland Dobbins
On 17 Jun 2015, at 11:34, Maqbool Hashim wrote: What might be easier is to set up a span port for the hosts access port on the switch and grab that via the collector laptop I have. It's better to collect as much information you have without perturbing the systems involved, anyways. ---

Re: Fkiws with destination port 0 and TCP SYN flag set

2015-06-17 Thread Pavel Odintsov
e hosts access port on the switch and grab that via the > collector laptop I have. > > Thanks, > > MH > > ____________ > From: Marcin Cieslak > Sent: 17 June 2015 10:30 > To: Maqbool Hashim > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Fkiws with destination port 0 and TCP SY

Re: Fkiws with destination port 0 and TCP SYN flag set

2015-06-17 Thread Maqbool Hashim
collector laptop I have. Thanks, MH From: Marcin Cieslak Sent: 17 June 2015 10:30 To: Maqbool Hashim Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Fkiws with destination port 0 and TCP SYN flag set On Wed, 17 Jun 2015, Maqbool Hashim wrote: > It is always the sam

Re: Fkiws with destination port 0 and TCP SYN flag set

2015-06-17 Thread Roland Dobbins
On 17 Jun 2015, at 11:23, Maqbool Hashim wrote: Maybe I need to setup collectors and span ports on all the switches involved to get to the bottom of this. Just feeling like we need to look at *all* the packets not the sample! Concur 100%. --- Roland Dobbins

Re: Fkiws with destination port 0 and TCP SYN flag set

2015-06-17 Thread Marcin Cieslak
On Wed, 17 Jun 2015, Maqbool Hashim wrote: > It is always the same destination servers and in normal operations > these source and destination hosts do have a bunch of legitimate flows > between them. I was leaning towards it being a reporting artifact, > but it's interesting that there are a who

Re: Fkiws with destination port 0 and TCP SYN flag set

2015-06-17 Thread Maqbool Hashim
! Regards, MH From: NANOG on behalf of Roland Dobbins Sent: 17 June 2015 10:07 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Fkiws with destination port 0 and TCP SYN flag set On 17 Jun 2015, at 10:44, Maqbool Hashim wrote: > It was stated in that thread that netflow reports

Re: Fkiws with destination port 0 and TCP SYN flag set

2015-06-17 Thread Roland Dobbins
On 17 Jun 2015, at 10:44, Maqbool Hashim wrote: It was stated in that thread that netflow reports source/dest port 0 for non-initial fragments. Fragmentation in this context only applies to UDP packets. If the destination of a TCP SYN is being reported as 0 (what's the source port?), either