Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-29 Thread Arie Vayner
Actually, this can be achieved easily using reflexive ACLs on any Cisco router, so no real need to change the topology or add new devices in the path: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/secursw/ps1018/products_tech_note09186a00800a5b9a.shtml#reflexacl Arie On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Du

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread Jorge Amodio
> Brielle is correct.  The customer in question is spamming networks and we > are having trouble filtering them because another provider allows them to > source traffic however they please. If they are spamming just pull the plug, whatever revenue you get from them is not worth your reputation and

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Yes - term the account would be my recommendation And if you filter port 25 traffic do it both ways Read these old nanog threads .. http://www.irbs.net/internet/nanog/0408/0465.html and http://www.mail-archive.com/na...@merit.edu/msg28863.html On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:58 AM, William Herrin wro

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread Randy Bush
> Brielle is correct. The customer in question is spamming networks and > we are having trouble filtering them because another provider allows > them to source traffic however they please. then perhaps the issue is a bit larger than their traffic incoming to you. disconnect the schmucks. randy

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 2:14 PM, ML wrote: > Brielle is correct.  The customer in question is spamming networks and we > are having trouble filtering them because another provider allows them to > source traffic however they please. What trouble? SMTP requires two-way traffic with a static port n

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread Brielle Bruns
From: Duane Waddle To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Finding asymmetric path Sent: Nov 28, 2009 1:26 PM On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote: > My partner Tammy says a PIX could probably accomplish the same task (we have > some here for the corp lan stuff, including spares).

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread Duane Waddle
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote: > My partner Tammy says a PIX could probably accomplish the same task (we have > some here for the corp lan stuff, including spares). Yes, a PIX/ASA would stop this cold. The TCP state tracking would not allow traffic to pass unless the who

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread Brielle Bruns
lish the same task (we have some here for the corp lan stuff, including spares). Brielle -- Brielle Bruns http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org -Original Message- From: ML Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:14:07 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Finding asymmetric path Brielle Bruns

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread ML
Brielle Bruns wrote: On 11/27/09 8:43 PM, ML wrote: I'm reasonable certain a customer of ours who is using one of our netblocks is using a different reverse path to reach us. How might I figure out who is allowing them to source traffic from IPs that belong to us? I've had two customers pul

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread Joe Greco
> > On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 09:41:09AM -0600, Joe Greco wrote: > [attributions lost] > > > >>> I'm reasonable certain a customer of ours who is using one of our > > > >>> netblocks is using a different reverse path to reach us. How might I > > > >>> figure out who is allowing them to source tra

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 11/27/09 8:43 PM, ML wrote: I'm reasonable certain a customer of ours who is using one of our netblocks is using a different reverse path to reach us. How might I figure out who is allowing them to source traffic from IPs that belong to us? I've had two customers pull this stunt in the pa

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread Joe Provo
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 09:41:09AM -0600, Joe Greco wrote: [attributions lost] > > >>> I'm reasonable certain a customer of ours who is using one of our > > >>> netblocks is using a different reverse path to reach us. How might I > > >>> figure out who is allowing them to source traffic from IPs

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:43 PM, ML wrote: > I'm reasonable certain a customer of ours who is using one of our netblocks > is using a different reverse path to reach us.  How might I figure out who > is allowing them to source traffic from IPs that belong to us? Hi, Are they complaining about s

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-28 Thread Joe Greco
> >>> I'm reasonable certain a customer of ours who is using one of our > >>> netblocks is using a different reverse path to reach us. How might I > >>> figure out who is allowing them to source traffic from IPs that belong > >>> to us? > >> you are implying that they are not allowed to multi-h

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-27 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > perhaps it is fear of what they, possibly mistakenly, perceive to be > your policy regarding announcement of space that keeps them from > announcing normally to both, or more, links? or maybe just better pricing on the other provider, and tha

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-27 Thread Randy Bush
>>> I'm reasonable certain a customer of ours who is using one of our >>> netblocks is using a different reverse path to reach us. How might I >>> figure out who is allowing them to source traffic from IPs that belong >>> to us? >> you are implying that they are not allowed to multi-home using

RE: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-27 Thread Stefan Fouant
> -Original Message- > From: ML [mailto:m...@kenweb.org] > Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 10:44 PM > > I'm reasonable certain a customer of ours who is using one of our > netblocks is using a different reverse path to reach us. How might I > figure out who is allowing them to source traf

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-27 Thread ML
Randy Bush wrote: I'm reasonable certain a customer of ours who is using one of our netblocks is using a different reverse path to reach us. How might I figure out who is allowing them to source traffic from IPs that belong to us? you are implying that they are not allowed to multi-home usin

Re: Finding asymmetric path

2009-11-27 Thread Randy Bush
> I'm reasonable certain a customer of ours who is using one of our > netblocks is using a different reverse path to reach us. How might I > figure out who is allowing them to source traffic from IPs that belong > to us? you are implying that they are not allowed to multi-home using the ip spa