Re: Dealing with auditors (was Re: We hit half-million: The Cidr Report)

2014-05-01 Thread TGLASSEY
Bill - anything that puts another routable network alongside of the card processing info is in scope. The real; issue is that the PCI-SSC decided to formally create a policy to hold the auditors harmless in their actions and that is about to change. Todd On 5/1/2014 8:52 AM, William Herrin w

Re: Dealing with auditors (was Re: We hit half-million: The Cidr Report)

2014-05-01 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 6:29 AM, Alain Hebert wrote: > Bill & Telnet... > > I hope that QSA didn't let you keep that telnet facing any > public interface without any protection. Hi Alain, The point I made, successfully, was that it was outside the firewall hence out of scope for the a

Re: Dealing with auditors (was Re: We hit half-million: The Cidr Report)

2014-05-01 Thread Alain Hebert
ther reason PCI is not necessarily > about security > > David > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Ulf Zimmermann > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:36 PM > To: William Herrin > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re

RE: Dealing with auditors (was Re: We hit half-million: The Cidr Report)

2014-04-30 Thread David Hubbard
rs (was Re: We hit half-million: The Cidr Report) The auditors VMware sent to us were just as bad. To ensure we weren't running "rogue" ESX(i) servers or WorkStation, they made us provide full arp/cam tables. Then a list of the virtual machines. "Oh look, this MAC isn't lis

Re: Dealing with auditors (was Re: We hit half-million: The Cidr Report)

2014-04-30 Thread Ulf Zimmermann
The auditors VMware sent to us were just as bad. To ensure we weren't running "rogue" ESX(i) servers or WorkStation, they made us provide full arp/cam tables. Then a list of the virtual machines. "Oh look, this MAC isn't listed as one of your virtual machines". It isn't because it was running on vi

Re: Dealing with auditors (was Re: We hit half-million: The Cidr Report)

2014-04-30 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote: > On 4/30/2014 11:30 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: >> And in that discussion, we ascertained that what the PCI standard actually >> says, and what you need to do in order to get unclued boneheaded auditors >> to sign the piece of paper, ar