Re: DPI deployment use case

2011-10-12 Thread Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo
Apparently Telcos are faced with implementing the following algorithm to create value-added services: - Take service S with provides value Y - Artificially remove value, creating new service V - Price V at the same level as S - Offer old S at a higher price point and market it as a "value added" s

Re: DPI deployment use case

2011-10-10 Thread Arturo Servin
I imagine that those proposals are not from users … I would add "tyrannical" telcos cracking down on their own customers. -as On 7 Oct 2011, at 14:20, Claudio Lapidus wrote: > Hello, > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Martin Millnert wrote: > >> I've seen tyrannical governm

Re: DPI deployment use case

2011-10-07 Thread Michael Hallgren
Le samedi 08 octobre 2011 à 05:57 +0900, Randy Bush a écrit : > > Actually, we've been faced with proposals to build services based on > > traffic classification, like e.g. "access our own webmail and all > > social networking sites, but not skype and video" > > you're on the wrong list. this lis

Re: DPI deployment use case

2011-10-07 Thread Randy Bush
> Actually, we've been faced with proposals to build services based on > traffic classification, like e.g. "access our own webmail and all > social networking sites, but not skype and video" you're on the wrong list. this list is about the internet. randy

Re: DPI deployment use case

2011-10-07 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:44 PM, PC wrote: > Your use case is not beyond the possibility of full DPI, but a transparent > proxy box of some nature would be sufficient for most of that.  Usage limits > on the other hand is often easier done via your AAA accounting/radius > solution, including polic

Re: DPI deployment use case

2011-10-07 Thread PC
I've seen these used for two purposes over the years: 1) Repressive nation states. 2) ISPs/Universities who want to "shape" their bandwidth to prevent certain traffic types from consuming everything. 3) Integrated with enhanced caching solutions to serve content locally and save bandwidth (Web c

Re: DPI deployment use case

2011-10-07 Thread Claudio Lapidus
Hello, On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Martin Millnert wrote: > I've seen tyrannical governments use Bluecoat's to crack down on their > own population(*). > Was this the sort of use-case you were looking for? :) > Ummm, not really... :) Actually, we've been faced with proposals to build servic

Re: DPI deployment use case

2011-10-06 Thread Martin Millnert
Hi, On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Claudio Lapidus wrote: > what actual use cases have you seen in the field (if any) for DPI'ing user > sessions, > considering we are mostly a DSL shop. I've seen tyrannical governments use Bluecoat's to crack down on their own population(*). Was this the sort