RE: Bluehost.com

2015-11-30 Thread Kiriki Delany
em of how to massively scale and keep up the quality of your support services too. -Kiriki -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Petach Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 1:13 PM Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Bluehost.com On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 8:1

Re: Bluehost.com

2015-11-29 Thread Matthew Petach
On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Bob Evans wrote: > I think he means to say the rich get richer on the other side of the > investment by playing the shorting and the buying of stock in the gambling > marketplace. As the stock itself can create a new currency so they > make more money playing w

Re: Bluehost.com

2015-11-28 Thread Bob Evans
I think he means to say the rich get richer on the other side of the investment by playing the shorting and the buying of stock in the gambling marketplace. As the stock itself can create a new currency so they make more money playing with that than the actually investment. They are on the insi

Re: Bluehost.com

2015-11-28 Thread Matthew Petach
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Kiriki Delany wrote: > [...] > > Bottom line, is the industry needs to be increasing value, because the flip > side working for no profit, surviving off investment only... there's no > end-game. You see this cycle time and time again as market share is grabbed,

RE: Bluehost.com

2015-11-26 Thread Kiriki Delany
try should be limited. The giant pool of money is now weaponized. -Kiriki -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Bob Evans Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 5:20 PM To: Robert Webb Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Bluehost.com For an ISP type service - it

RE: Bluehost.com

2015-11-25 Thread Bob Evans
; lose value for an industry should be limited. > > The giant pool of money is now weaponized. > > -Kiriki > > > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Bob Evans > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 5:20 PM > To: Ro

Re: Bluehost.com

2015-11-25 Thread alvin nanog
hi On 11/25/15 at 05:19pm, Bob Evans wrote: > For an ISP type service - it's almost impossible the make it up in volume > - all you need is one phone call to cost you $10 in support on a $3.50 > service. With that many customers you can imagine how many call to just > ask what happened or vent af

Re: Bluehost.com

2015-11-25 Thread Bob Evans
For an ISP type service - it's almost impossible the make it up in volume - all you need is one phone call to cost you $10 in support on a $3.50 service. With that many customers you can imagine how many call to just ask what happened or vent after the event is over. I founded a cable modem busine

Re: Bluehost.com

2015-11-25 Thread Robert Webb
However, with thousands more users at that price point, you would think the income would be plenty for better services. Who makes more, the store with smaller quantities at higher prices or the store that sells more bulk at lower prices? Perception of value, I believe, wins. Robert On Wed,

Re: Bluehost.com

2015-11-25 Thread Bob Evans
Yes, I agree with you Joe - a hasty generalization, as "you get what you pay for" doesn't really apply to as many goods in the same way it does to almost all services. However, a $3.49 web site service should have be a good first clue. Thank You Bob Evans CTO > Walmart has cheap prices so "yo

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2015-11-25 Thread Keith Kouzmanoff

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2015-11-25 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 10:06:30 +1100, Matt Palmer said: > Except for the fuckups that the redundancy *caused*... You can't have split-brain failures if there isn't enough brain to split? :) pgpYyCs8TIJTE.pgp Description: PGP signature

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2015-11-25 Thread JoeSox
Walmart has cheap prices so "you get what you pay for."?? Hasty generalization but I can't disagree 100% with your opinion on this one. I am learning about the non-profit world of IT and the challenges are all around me. :) -- Later, Joe On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Bob Evans wrote: > > Ge

Re: Bluehost.com

2015-11-25 Thread Matt Palmer
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 02:24:05PM -0500, Andrew Kirch wrote: > remember folks, redundancy is the savior of all f***ups. Except for the fuckups that the redundancy *caused*... - Matt

Re: Bluehost.com

2015-11-25 Thread Bob Evans
Gee, for $3.49 for a website hosting per month , it's a real bargain. While the network person inside me says, Wow that's a long outage. The other part of me is really wondering what one thinks they can really expect from a company that hosts a website for just $3.49 ? Such a bargain at less than

Re: Bluehost.com

2015-11-25 Thread Andrew Kirch
remember folks, redundancy is the savior of all f***ups. :) On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:21 PM, JoeSox wrote: > I just waited 160 minutes for a tech call and the Bluehost tech told me he > was able to confirm that it wasn't malicious activity that took down the > datacenter but rather it was cause

Re: Bluehost.com

2015-11-25 Thread JoeSox
Forgot to mention that their ETA was by end of today. :facepalm: -- Later, Joe On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:21 AM, JoeSox wrote: > I just waited 160 minutes for a tech call and the Bluehost tech told me he > was able to confirm that it wasn't malicious activity that took down the > datacenter but

Re: Bluehost.com

2015-11-25 Thread JoeSox
I just waited 160 minutes for a tech call and the Bluehost tech told me he was able to confirm that it wasn't malicious activity that took down the datacenter but rather it was caused by a "datacenter issue". So my first thought is someone didn't design the topology correctly or something. Some of

Re: Bluehost.com

2015-11-25 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 08:41:55AM -0800, JoeSox wrote a message of 9 lines which said: > Anyone have the scope on the outage for Bluehost? > https://twitter.com/search?q=%23bluehostdown&src=tyah The two name servers ns1.bluehost.com and ns2.bluehost.com are awfully slow to respond: % check-

Re: Bluehost.com

2015-11-25 Thread Grant Ridder
Their site and my site work US west coast -Grant On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Brielle Bruns wrote: > On 11/25/15 9:41 AM, JoeSox wrote: > >> Anyone have the scope on the outage for Bluehost? >> https://twitter.com/search?q=%23bluehostdown&src=tyah >> >> Cannot even move my DNS until its res

Re: Bluehost.com

2015-11-25 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 11/25/15 9:41 AM, JoeSox wrote: Anyone have the scope on the outage for Bluehost? https://twitter.com/search?q=%23bluehostdown&src=tyah Cannot even move my DNS until its restored. :( I suggest moving the status page to outside your network as well. https://www.bluehost.com/hosting/serverstatu