Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Watson, Bob
Carrier oem churn (turnover /agitation cycles) First mover for features happen and leapfrog but the ones that matter get adopted across the line in time. > On May 7, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > What churn rates are you talking about? > > Josh Reynolds > CIO, SPITwSPOTS > www.

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
LOL :) On May 7, 2015 9:38:15 AM AKDT, Rob Seastrom wrote: > >More like "at least be willing to man up and learn your way around >some platform other than RHEL without whining if there is a business >need for it". > >-r > >Josh Reynolds writes: > >> *grumble, grumble, grumble* >> "Get off my law

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Rob Seastrom
More like "at least be willing to man up and learn your way around some platform other than RHEL without whining if there is a business need for it". -r Josh Reynolds writes: > *grumble, grumble, grumble* > "Get off my lawn!" > :) > > > On May 7, 2015 8:49:43 AM AKDT, Rob Seastrom wrote: > >

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
You know where these people wouldn't fit? W/ISPs. Every three years or so you are forklifting the majority of your wireless PtMP for either a new series or a totally different vendor. New backhaul vendors often. You're building AC and DC power plants. You likely touch Cisco, juniper, HP, mikrot

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Craig
we do "cry" when we interview people that claim to have "advanced knowledge" of BGP and we ask them some very basic BGP questions, and we get a blank stare. On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Rob Seastrom wrote: > > Josh Reynolds writes: > > > It really bothers me to see that people in this i

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
*grumble, grumble, grumble* "Get off my lawn!" :) On May 7, 2015 8:49:43 AM AKDT, Rob Seastrom wrote: > >Josh Reynolds writes: > >> It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so >> worried about a change of syntax or terminology. If there's one >> thing about the big vendors

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Tim Franklin
> It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so worried about > a change of syntax or terminology. If there's one thing about the big > vendors that bothers me, it's that these batteries of vendor specific tests > have allowed many "techs" to get lazy. They simply can't seem to op

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Rob Seastrom
Josh Reynolds writes: > It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so > worried about a change of syntax or terminology. If there's one > thing about the big vendors that bothers me, it's that these > batteries of vendor specific tests have allowed many "techs" to get > lazy. T

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so worried about a change of syntax or terminology. If there's one thing about the big vendors that bothers me, it's that these batteries of vendor specific tests have allowed many "techs" to get lazy. They simply can't seem to operate

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Trent Farrell
And if you ever need to find out what can commands exist for a certain string "xxx" tree flat detail | match xxx is a huge helper when learning. e.g. A:router# tree flat detail | match aspath-regex show router bgp routes [ [type ]] aspath-regex show router bgp routes [ []] aspath-regex On Th

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Craig
yep.. its way easier and faster to take a look at what is configured: A:R01>config>service>vprn# interface "to-what-ever-eBGP" A:R01>config>service>vprn>if# info -- description "L3 Ckt ID: " enable-ingress-stat

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Chris Boyd
> On May 6, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Colton Conor wrote: > > I am worried as most tech's know Cisco and Juniper, so going to ALU would > be a learning curve based on replies I am getting off list. It’s not that hard to learn if you know the basics of IP routing. I just did an implementation of A-L 7

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Mick O'Donovan
co or Juniper. They have tab and ? completion now for both commands as well as elements similar to Junos which is helpful. Phil -Original Message- From: "Bob Evans" Sent: ‎5/‎6/‎2015 11:55 PM To: "nanog@nanog.org" Subject: Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Phil Bedard
Forgot to send this yesterday… We use them in our networks along with ASR9Ks and MXs. There are a lot of them deployed around the world doing very similar things as ASRs and MXs. The config is more like Juniper than Cisco IMHO. Being kind of the “3rd” vendor they have a tendency to implemen

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-07 Thread Tim Franklin
> I am worried as most tech's know Cisco and Juniper, so going to ALU would > be a learning curve based on replies I am getting off list. It's definitely quite different from the CLI. I'm still dabbling, but the guys here who have been through the training and are immersed in it really like it.

RE: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Phil Bedard
Phil -Original Message- From: "Bob Evans" Sent: ‎5/‎6/‎2015 11:55 PM To: "nanog@nanog.org" Subject: Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR) I will be getting one to try. I am pretty sure it will support the ol' "show ? ,config ?" If not

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Bruce
that second command is "admin display-config" or "admin display-config | match " cheers On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Bob Evans wrote: > > I will be getting one to try. I am pretty sure it will support the ol' > "show ? ,config ?" If not that might be a problem :-) > > Thank You

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Bob Evans
I will be getting one to try. I am pretty sure it will support the ol' "show ? ,config ?" If not that might be a problem :-) Thank You Bob Evans CTO > What's the price point of an SR-A4? Comparable to the MX104 or ASR9001? > > -- Stephen > > On 2015-05-06 7:13 PM, Craig wrote: >>

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Stephen Fulton
What's the price point of an SR-A4? Comparable to the MX104 or ASR9001? -- Stephen On 2015-05-06 7:13 PM, Craig wrote: If you know Juniper and Cisco, the learning curve isn't so bad to pick up the ALU CLI, after working with it for a brief time, you catch on quickly. Their products are quite i

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Craig
If you know Juniper and Cisco, the learning curve isn't so bad to pick up the ALU CLI, after working with it for a brief time, you catch on quickly. Their products are quite impressive, and a # of the carriers, are moving to them and some have already moved to them and are quite happy with their de

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Colton Conor
I am worried as most tech's know Cisco and Juniper, so going to ALU would be a learning curve based on replies I am getting off list. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Dan Snyder wrote: > > They are definitely good for that. We use them in part of our network for > something very similar. > > I am

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Dan Snyder
They are definitely good for that. We use them in part of our network for something very similar. I am not sure why they aren't mentioned that much. I know that they have been pretty popular in the past couple years. We are planning on using 7750 SR-a4's in the future but right now we mainly

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Scott Weeks
--- colton.co...@gmail.com wrote: From: Colton Conor Why is ALU never mentioned, but Juniper MX and Cisco are all day long? - Because they're really expensive, mostly bell head networks use them and we're mostly bell head free on NANOG... >;-) scott

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Scott Weeks
> On May 6, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Colton Conor wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone was using a > Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router> (SR) > in their network? How does this platform > compare the the Cisco ASR, Brocade MLXe, > and Juniper MX line? - I haven't u

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Colton Conor
Taking full BGP routes from 4+ carriers on 10G connections. Why is ALU never mentioned, but Juniper MX and Cisco are all day long? The new 7750 SR-a4 looks like a Juniper MX80 or MX104 killer. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Dan Snyder wrote: > We have been using them for almost 8 years now and

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

2015-05-06 Thread Dan Snyder
We have been using them for almost 8 years now and have been pretty happy. What are you looking to use them for? Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Colton Conor wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone was using a Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router > (SR) in their network? How does

Re: Alcatel-Lucent and France Tel deploy 400G for testing

2013-02-08 Thread Christophe Lucas
Le 2013-02-07 15:40, Jay Ashworth a écrit : - Original Message - From: "Adam Vitkovsky" Can't find any statement whether the nifty proclaimed 400G wavelength is indeed a single 100GHz channel or just a bundled supper channel The only hint is the total capacity of a fiber of 17.6 Tbp

Re: Alcatel-Lucent and France Tel deploy 400G for testing

2013-02-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Adam Vitkovsky" > Can't find any statement whether the nifty proclaimed 400G wavelength > is indeed a single 100GHz channel or just a bundled supper channel > The only hint is the total capacity of a fiber of 17.6 Tbps with 44 > wavelengths which is roughly t

RE: Alcatel-Lucent and France Tel deploy 400G for testing

2013-02-07 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
Can't find any statement whether the nifty proclaimed 400G wavelength is indeed a single 100GHz channel or just a bundled supper channel The only hint is the total capacity of a fiber of 17.6 Tbps with 44 wavelengths which is roughly the whole 100GHz spaced grid adam -Original Message-

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-09 Thread Phil Bedard
I've done some recent testing and while the BGP download time isn't blazing fast, it can load 400k routes and propagate them to 20 other peers in a few minutes. Certainly not 2 hours. :) I've also done quite a bit of interop testing with the other main vendors as well and have yet to run into

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-09 Thread piotr sawicki
The worst thing in it was bgp proto .. Router was unable to withstand 20+ peering sessions , most of that outgoing bgp session to customers , a few peerings , and only 1v2 incoming upstream providers When there was instability/surge in bgp updates , router was able to break itself tcp sess. Dw

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-08 Thread piotr sawicki
Chris Wallace wrote: I am hoping to get some peoples opinions on Alcatel-Lucent routers. We are looking at the 7750 SR line and the 7450 ESS line. We are currently a Cisco shop but these would be deployed in a completely new network delivering mostly MPLS based services and DIA. Any comment

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-06 Thread Scott Weeks
--- jrh...@netconsonance.com wrote: So my experience so far has been good product, good company, needs a real attitude adjustment in the support department. - ditto that! scott

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-06 Thread Jo Rhett
On Mar 4, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Chris Wallace wrote: > I am hoping to get some peoples opinions on Alcatel-Lucent routers. We are > looking at the 7750 SR line and the 7450 ESS line. We are currently a Cisco > shop but these would be deployed in a completely new network delivering > mostly MPLS ba

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-04 Thread Scott Weeks
--- mirot...@gmail.com wrote: I'll have to second everything everyone is saying. Absolutely pleased with everything about them. Just wish I had more 7750s instead of 7450s. -- That reminds me of one thing that adds more complexity. We carry our int

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-04 Thread Chadwick Sorrell
I'll have to second everything everyone is saying. Absolutely pleased with everything about them. Just wish I had more 7750s instead of 7450s. On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Craig wrote: > Very good routers. We have been using them for several years now. Very solid > product, and very easy to

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-04 Thread Craig
Very good routers. We have been using them for several years now. Very solid product, and very easy to setup services: ie vprn/ vpls/ epipe, etc. The qos on the box is very scalable. I could talk more about them off line with you or discuss more over phone. On Mar 4, 2010, at 5:22 PM,

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-04 Thread Scott Weeks
--- li...@iamchriswallace.com wrote: I am hoping to get some peoples opinions on Alcatel-Lucent routers. We are looking at the 7750 SR line and the 7450 ESS line. We are currently a Cisco shop but these would be deployed in a completely new network delivering mostly MPLS based services and D

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-04 Thread Scott Weeks
--- li...@iamchriswallace.com wrote: I am hoping to get some peoples opinions on Alcatel-Lucent routers. We are looking at the 7750 SR line and the 7450 ESS line. We are currently a Cisco shop but these would be deployed in a completely new network delivering mostly MPLS based services and D

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-04 Thread Dan Snyder
The 7750 and 7450 are really good products. We were a pure Cisco shop about three years ago and then started using the 7750. We are very happy with the product. If you have any questions you can contact me off list. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 4, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Chris Wallace wrote: I

Re: Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick

2009-10-26 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Justin M. Streiner wrote: On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Jay Nakamura wrote: Looking for input on Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick.  I can look up spec and other published information but, as always, the devil is in the

Re: Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick

2009-10-26 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Justin M. Streiner wrote: > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Jay Nakamura wrote: > >> Looking for input on Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick.  I can look up >> spec and other published information but, as always, the devil is in >> the detail and you just never know what wall

RE: Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick

2009-10-26 Thread Eric RICHARD
Hello, I am working for a French ISP, we are working with this product in order to provide a firewall for our VRF customers. Quickly : Used to : * Firewall / NAT for IPV4 VRF * Rate limit bandwidth & sessions * A few logging Pro: * stable * ipsec & pptp passthrough Cons : * ugly java interfa

Re: Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick

2009-10-26 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Jay Nakamura wrote: Looking for input on Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick. I can look up spec and other published information but, as always, the devil is in the detail and you just never know what wall you run into until you actually try it so I wanted to see if anyone ha

[NANOG] RE : Alcatel-Lucent

2008-05-14 Thread Oriana Palivan
Hi, I've just changed my IP/MPLS bakcbone with Alcatel ESSs and SRs. Where can I check on the SR 7750 the version of the IOM, to see if I have the IOM2 by any chance? Thanks. Regards, Oriana De: Kevin Billings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: mer. 14.05.2008