Re: 40 GBit @ 240 GHz across 1 km LoS

2013-05-17 Thread Warren Bailey
Fagan Date: 05/17/2013 10:37 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Warren Bailey Cc: Carsten Bormann ,NANOG list Subject: Re: 40 GBit @ 240 GHz across 1 km LoS Nice...8x300Gbit optical beams; that's awesome. On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Warren Bailey mailto:wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>&g

Re: 40 GBit @ 240 GHz across 1 km LoS

2013-05-17 Thread Phil Fagan
: 05/17/2013 10:29 AM (GMT-08:00) > To: Warren Bailey > Cc: Carsten Bormann ,NANOG list > Subject: Re: 40 GBit @ 240 GHz across 1 km LoS > > > Well put; 1kM is a giant leap from .1Km, but its a far cry from rural > transport. > > I wonder what the fixed mobile/metro use

Re: 40 GBit @ 240 GHz across 1 km LoS

2013-05-17 Thread Warren Bailey
Mobile Device. Original message From: Phil Fagan Date: 05/17/2013 10:29 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Warren Bailey Cc: Carsten Bormann ,NANOG list Subject: Re: 40 GBit @ 240 GHz across 1 km LoS Well put; 1kM is a giant leap from .1Km, but its a far cry from rural transport. I wonder what

Re: 40 GBit @ 240 GHz across 1 km LoS

2013-05-17 Thread Phil Fagan
Well put; 1kM is a giant leap from .1Km, but its a far cry from rural transport. I wonder what the fixed mobile/metro use cases might look like; Alternate path, aggregate short distance media backhaul... I think I like the idea most for non-earth atmosphere use cases, space vehicle or exploration

Re: 40 GBit @ 240 GHz across 1 km LoS

2013-05-17 Thread Warren Bailey
I disagree. It's not the near field stuff that is an issue.. It's the far field stuff further down the road that is going to murder the link.. Look at his Fig 1 and Fig 2. Fig 1 is saying that he is getting killed at 50mm/h of rain at 60 gig and at 175 gig. Fig 2 is saying that everything works

Re: 40 GBit @ 240 GHz across 1 km LoS

2013-05-17 Thread Carsten Bormann
On May 17, 2013, at 16:30, Warren Bailey wrote: > By not working. At those frequencies you're talking a light moisture pocket > taking the entire link down. Not quite as bad: http://www.uni-stuttgart.de/int/institut/MA_Publikationen/reichart/COMCAS_25G_link.pdf The ~ 50 mm/h rain they seem t

Re: 40 GBit @ 240 GHz across 1 km LoS

2013-05-17 Thread Warren Bailey
These links are impressive, but I think this kind of stuff was designed for outer space. Sent from my Mobile Device. Original message From: Phil Fagan Date: 05/17/2013 4:36 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Eugen Leitl Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: 40 GBit @ 240 GHz across 1 km LoS Congrats

Re: 40 GBit @ 240 GHz across 1 km LoS

2013-05-17 Thread Warren Bailey
By not working. At those frequencies you're talking a light moisture pocket taking the entire link down. Sent from my Mobile Device. Original message From: Phil Fagan Date: 05/17/2013 4:36 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Eugen Leitl Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: 40 GBit @ 240 GHz across

RE: 40 GBit @ 240 GHz across 1 km LoS

2013-05-17 Thread MailPlus| David Hofstee
C: NANOG Onderwerp: Re: 40 GBit @ 240 GHz across 1 km LoS Congrats! How does 240Ghz react to atmospheric conditions other than "clear skys?" On May 17, 2013 4:17 AM, "Eugen Leitl" wrote: > > Fraunhofer: > > http://www.iaf.fraunhofer.de/de/news-medien/pressemitteilun

Re: 40 GBit @ 240 GHz across 1 km LoS

2013-05-17 Thread Phil Fagan
Congrats! How does 240Ghz react to atmospheric conditions other than "clear skys?" On May 17, 2013 4:17 AM, "Eugen Leitl" wrote: > > Fraunhofer: > > http://www.iaf.fraunhofer.de/de/news-medien/pressemitteilungen/presse-2013-05-16.html > > Google Translate: > > New world record in data transmissio