Re: internet in the box

2013-03-11 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Philip Lavine wrote: > Has anybody set up a Cellular front end (LTE or 3G) access to the Internet > and a WiFi backend supporting 150 devices. > I need to provide temporary Internet access (7 days) to a convention center > room that is about 2000 square feet. > Stoo

Re: internet in the box

2013-03-10 Thread John Osmon
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 02:35:00PM -0400, br...@pobox.com wrote: [...] > I know nothing of the legalities outside of the US, however I never > said anything about the convention center restricting irghts to use > RF, I said they won't let you on the roof without paying a lot of > money. I strongly

Re: internet in the box

2013-03-10 Thread Joe Abley
On 2013-03-10, at 15:02, Warren Bailey wrote: > I suspect the amount of fade glass will provide would make this a last resort > solution. Unless you did a 900mhz point to point with some yagis. I suspect the general answer is you do whatever you can to make things work. > I can't think of a

Re: internet in the box

2013-03-10 Thread Warren Bailey
--- From: Joe Abley Date: 03/10/2013 11:43 AM (GMT-08:00) To: br...@pobox.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: internet in the box On 2013-03-10, at 14:35, br...@pobox.com wrote: > I know nothing of the legalities outside of the US, however I never said > anything about the convention

Re: internet in the box

2013-03-10 Thread Joe Abley
On 2013-03-10, at 14:35, br...@pobox.com wrote: > I know nothing of the legalities outside of the US, however I never said > anything about the convention center restricting irghts to use RF, I said > they won't let you on the roof without paying a lot of money. I strongly > suspect that is t

Re: internet in the box

2013-03-10 Thread bross
On Sun, 10 Mar 2013, Masataka Ohta wrote: Brandon Ross wrote: Or find a wireless ISP in the area to backhaul you some bandwidth for a week. Do you think the convention center that wants $50/person/week will just give away the roof rights for free? There is a legal issue of who owns the rig

Re: internet in the box

2013-03-10 Thread Chris Hindy
Watch out for the terms in the contract. You might be obligated to use the conference facility's service as opposed to bringing your own. An alternative might be to check in with ShowNets (http://www.shownets.net/) who are very good at custom-sized solutions and are often at least tolerated by fa

Re: internet in the box

2013-03-10 Thread Masataka Ohta
Brandon Ross wrote: >> Or find a wireless ISP in the area to backhaul you some bandwidth for a >> week. > > Do you think the convention center that wants $50/person/week will just > give away the roof rights for free? There is a legal issue of who owns the right to control radio bandwidth usage

Re: internet in the box

2013-03-09 Thread Seth Mos
et volgende geschreven: > > > From: joel jaeggli > To: Philip Lavine ; NANOG list > Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 11:40 AM > Subject: Re: internet in the box > > cradlepoint, verizon lte wireless usb dongle and a commercial plan with the > appropiate bandwidth cap. > &

Re: internet in the box

2013-03-08 Thread Brandon Ross
On Fri, 8 Mar 2013, Josh Baird wrote: Or find a wireless ISP in the area to backhaul you some bandwidth for a week. Do you think the convention center that wants $50/person/week will just give away the roof rights for free? -- Brandon Ross Yahoo & AIM:

Re: internet in the box

2013-03-08 Thread Josh Baird
Or find a wireless ISP in the area to backhaul you some bandwidth for a week. Then just get a box to do NAT, DHCP, etc. Josh On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Philip Lavine wrote: > Has anybody set up a Cellular front end (LTE or 3G) access to the Internet > and a WiFi backend supporting 150 devi

Re: internet in the box

2013-03-08 Thread joel jaeggli
that the three cellular devices aren't right on top of each other *From:* joel jaeggli *To:* Philip Lavine ; NANOG list *Sent:* Friday, March 8, 2013 11:40 AM *Subject:* Re: internet in the box cradlepoint, verizon lte wireless usb dongle and a commercial plan with the appropiate bandw

Re: internet in the box

2013-03-08 Thread PC
inal Message- > From: Philip Lavine [mailto:source_ro...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 3:20 PM > To: joel jaeggli; NANOG list > Subject: Re: internet in the box > > so : Cradlepoint with 3 x USB Modems -> Cisco2900 with integrated WLC and > 6 AP's > &g

RE: internet in the box

2013-03-08 Thread Eric Wieling
plus overage fees 8-) -Original Message- From: Philip Lavine [mailto:source_ro...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 3:20 PM To: joel jaeggli; NANOG list Subject: Re: internet in the box so : Cradlepoint with 3 x USB Modems -> Cisco2900 with integrated WLC and 6 A

Re: internet in the box

2013-03-08 Thread Philip Lavine
so : Cradlepoint with 3 x USB Modems -> Cisco2900 with integrated WLC and 6 AP's From: joel jaeggli To: Philip Lavine ; NANOG list Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 11:40 AM Subject: Re: internet in the box cradlepoint, verizon lte wireless usb dong

Re: internet in the box

2013-03-08 Thread joel jaeggli
cradlepoint, verizon lte wireless usb dongle and a commercial plan with the appropiate bandwidth cap. I would then put a somewhat more powerful wireless-ap/router/nat-box behind it. I have stood up a datacenter behind such a thing while waiting for circuits to arrive. the cradlepoint can

Re: internet in the box

2013-03-08 Thread Justin Wilson
My advice have some limits or controls. Whether it be a box running QOS, hotspot, etc. You will have users on there running speed tests, trying to Skype, etc. Justin -- Justin Wilson Aol & Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog ­ xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw ­ Follow me