Re: bgp convergence problem

2014-05-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, May 08, 2014 06:34:14 PM Christopher Morrow wrote: > :( that's bad news... config hackery is brittle. > (but fun) Don't I know :-)... *sigh* Mark. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: bgp convergence problem

2014-05-08 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > On Thursday, May 08, 2014 04:41:21 PM Christopher Morrow > wrote: > >> if only there were some technology that could be used to >> thwart such things. > > It's gotten to a point where a repeat offender has me wound > up enough to prepend his AS

Re: bgp convergence problem

2014-05-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, May 08, 2014 04:41:21 PM Christopher Morrow wrote: > if only there were some technology that could be used to > thwart such things. It's gotten to a point where a repeat offender has me wound up enough to prepend his AS into some of my paths. I wish there was a simpler way to "tur

Re: bgp convergence problem

2014-05-08 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 1:51 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > On Wednesday, May 07, 2014 07:28:46 PM Peter Rubenstein > wrote: > >> Operationally speaking, AS1 should not be leaking routes >> from one upstream to the other. Bad route policy. ideally it'd be nice to be valley-free... so to speak. >> Also,

Re: bgp convergence problem

2014-05-07 Thread Mark Tinka
On Wednesday, May 07, 2014 07:28:46 PM Peter Rubenstein wrote: > Operationally speaking, AS1 should not be leaking routes > from one upstream to the other. Bad route policy. > Also, AS3 should not accept routes from AS1 that don't > belong to it. Customer router filtering would prevent > this.

RE: bgp convergence problem

2014-05-07 Thread Peter Rubenstein
Operationally speaking, AS1 should not be leaking routes from one upstream to the other. Bad route policy. Also, AS3 should not accept routes from AS1 that don't belong to it. Customer router filtering would prevent this. > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.

Re: bgp convergence problem

2014-05-06 Thread Randy Bush
> I have one bgp convergence problem which confused me. The problem is as > follows: > > ++ > | AS5 | > +--+16.1/16 | > | +-+--+ > || > +---+--+ | > | AS4 | | > |

Re: bgp convergence problem

2014-05-06 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 06 May 2014 11:58:58 +0800, Song Li said: > I have one bgp convergence problem which confused me. The problem is as > follows: You may want to Google for 'BGP Wedgie'. https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog31/presentations/griffin.pdf http://www.rfc-base.org/txt/rfc-4264.txt Once you unde

Re: bgp convergence problem

2014-05-06 Thread ISP Services
I suggest you work your way down :-) http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/ip/border-gateway-protocol-bgp/13753-25.html Dennis Hagens Song Li schreef op 5/6/14 1:42 PM: Hi Dennis, I think there are two possible convergence results: 1/ AS3 accepted route 16.1/16(2 4 5) from AS1, then it w

Re: bgp convergence problem

2014-05-06 Thread Song Li
Hi Dennis, I think there are two possible convergence results: 1/ AS3 accepted route 16.1/16(2 4 5) from AS1, then it will withdraw announce of 16.1/16(5) towards AS1. And AS1 will remain 16.1/16 (2 4 5). 2/ AS1 accepted route 16.1/16(3 5) from AS3, then it withdraw 16.1/16(2 4 5), and AS3 w

Re: bgp convergence problem

2014-05-06 Thread ISP Services
Hi Song Li, As far as I know there are 2 mechanisms that should prevent this situation you describe from happening: - Not advertising routes that are not in the RIB Once AS1's peering with AS3 comes back up, the route through AS3 is learned and preferred. Therefore the route via AS2 is purged

Re: BGP convergence problem

2010-06-08 Thread Niels Bakker
* globic...@gmail.com (Andy B.) [Tue 08 Jun 2010, 16:28 CEST]: I finally decided to shut down all peerings and brought them back one by one. Sadly that's often the way it has to be done, modulo mild tweaks. Everything is stable again, but I don't like the way I had to deal with it since it w

Re: BGP convergence problem

2010-06-08 Thread Randy Bush
> The Cisco 7600 and 6500 platforms are getting fairly old and have > underpowered cpus these days. the hamsters in them were never well fed, ever. though i have never run one, too yucchhy, i have measured receiving a research feed from one. over ten minutes for a full table while a router takes

Re: BGP convergence problem

2010-06-08 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 12:22:04PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote: > > The Cisco 7600 and 6500 platforms are getting fairly old and have > underpowered cpus these days. > > Starting in SXH the control plane did not scale quite as well as in > SXF. This got better in SXI, but is not back on par with SX

Re: BGP convergence problem

2010-06-08 Thread Kevin Hodle
Hi Andy, We have had similar problems with s720/3bxl on exchanges with large numbers of peers. Exact same symptoms, can be triggered by any significant UPDATE flux, even iBGP originated path-hunts. This problem is compounded if you are taking full tables on the same device, to the extent that th

Re: BGP convergence problem

2010-06-08 Thread Matthew Petach
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Andy B. wrote: > I finally decided to shut down all peerings and brought them back one by one. > > Everything is stable again, but I don't like the way I had to deal > with it since it will most likely happen again when DECIX or an other > IX we're at is having issu

Re: BGP convergence problem

2010-06-08 Thread Jared Mauch
On Jun 8, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Andy B. wrote: > I finally decided to shut down all peerings and brought them back one by one. > > Everything is stable again, but I don't like the way I had to deal > with it since it will most likely happen again when DECIX or an other > IX we're at is having issue

Re: BGP convergence problem

2010-06-08 Thread Andy B.
I finally decided to shut down all peerings and brought them back one by one. Everything is stable again, but I don't like the way I had to deal with it since it will most likely happen again when DECIX or an other IX we're at is having issues. I've seen a few BGP convergence discussions on NANOG

Re: BGP convergence problem

2010-06-08 Thread Ingo Flaschberger
Dear Andy This morning there was an ethernet loop problem on DECIX, causing many BGP sessions to flap throughout the entire platform. While this can happen, I am myself facing with BGP convergence problems on our DECIX router (SUP720-3BXL with IOS SXI3). De DECIX loop has been solved two hours