Re: ULA BoF

2007-06-02 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 2-jun-2007, at 1:27, Fred Baker wrote: But ULAs *do* require router magic. They require a policy to be in place that causes them to not be advertised unless the policy is overridden, and a policy that doesn't believe them even if they are mistakenly advertised. Well, there is no such

Re: ULA BoF

2007-06-01 Thread Fred Baker
On Jun 1, 2007, at 4:05 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: Solution: new type of local addresses that doesn't require any router magic to keep the packets within the site, and is globally unique so network merging isn't an issue. But ULAs *do* require router magic. They require a policy to b

Re: ULA BoF

2007-06-01 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 2-jun-2007, at 0:43, Joel Jaeggli wrote: One of the potential values of unique private address space is the ability to built your own internets. Now whether there is value to unique but private address space that is significantly higher than private but non-unique address space (1918 style)

Re: ULA BoF

2007-06-01 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 2-jun-2007, at 0:34, Randy Bush wrote: [ i do not see mail from the respondent. and this reminds me why ] Hm, I wonder what it is that I did to deserve that and who else I share this special status with. we still need a operator to make a short summary preso extolling the virtues of

Re: ULA BoF

2007-06-01 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > > On 1-jun-2007, at 20:51, Randy Bush wrote: > >> we still need a operator to make a short summary preso extolling >> the virtues of ula central at the bof. > > How exactly are the opinions of people who operate ISP networks about > address space that's never used

Re: ULA BoF

2007-06-01 Thread Randy Bush
[ i do not see mail from the respondent. and this reminds me why ] >>> we still need a operator to make a short summary preso extolling >>> the virtues of ula central at the bof. >> How exactly are the opinions of people who operate ISP networks about >> address space that's never used on the in

Re: ULA BoF

2007-06-01 Thread Steve Feldman
On Jun 1, 2007, at 3:13 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 1-jun-2007, at 20:51, Randy Bush wrote: we still need a operator to make a short summary preso extolling the virtues of ula central at the bof. How exactly are the opinions of people who operate ISP networks about address space

Re: ULA BoF

2007-06-01 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 1-jun-2007, at 20:51, Randy Bush wrote: we still need a operator to make a short summary preso extolling the virtues of ula central at the bof. How exactly are the opinions of people who operate ISP networks about address space that's never used on the internet relevant?

RE: ULA BoF

2007-06-01 Thread Azinger, Marla
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Owen DeLong Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 1:05 PM To: Randy Bush Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: ULA BoF Perhaps the difficulty in finding one says something of the operational virtues of ULA. Owen On Jun 1, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Randy Bush wrote

Re: ULA BoF

2007-06-01 Thread Owen DeLong
Perhaps the difficulty in finding one says something of the operational virtues of ULA. Owen On Jun 1, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Randy Bush wrote: we still need a operator to make a short summary preso extolling the virtues of ula central at the bof. randy smime.p7s Description: S/MIME crypto

Re: ULA BoF

2007-06-01 Thread Randy Bush
we still need a operator to make a short summary preso extolling the virtues of ula central at the bof. randy