Hence my mention of thinking it was a "sin" to subnet on the bit boundary in
v6... again, I will do my best to never go back to bit boundary subnetting
math in my v6 deployment. Actually, you folks are giving me bad flashbacks
to my ATM H-PNNI days of pnni peer group nsap address subnetting. Oh h
In message , William Herrin writes:
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 11:09 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
>
> > If I had 32 departments and were wanting to give them equal sized
> > allocations then I'd give them a /53 each which is 2064 subnets
> > each. It isn't that hard to do 8 delegations in the reverse
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 11:09 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
> If I had 32 departments and were wanting to give them equal sized
> allocations then I'd give them a /53 each which is 2064 subnets
> each. It isn't that hard to do 8 delegations in the reverse tree
> for each of the 32 departments. Delega
Mark Andrews writes:
> If I had 32 departments and were wanting to give them equal sized
> allocations then I'd give them a /53 each which is 2064 subnets
> each. It isn't that hard to do 8 delegations in the reverse tree
> for each of the 32 departments. Delegation on nibble boundaries
> is fo
In message <596349cf.9000...@nsc.liu.se>, Thomas Bellman writes:
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> On 2017-07-08 23:00, Radu-Adrian Feurdean wrote:
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> > On Sat, Jul 8, 2017, at 19:13, Mel Beckman wrote:
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> >> That open atmosphere was by design. It's why IPv6 uses 128-bit a
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On 2017-07-08 23:00, Radu-Adrian Feurdean wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 8, 2017, at 19:13, Mel Beckman wrote:
>> That open atmosphere was by design. It's why IPv6 uses 128-bit addresses,
>
> That's for hosts. When you care more about subnets, it's shortened
> Agreed with the /48 but ARIN doesn't appear to agree with our justification
> for a /36 thus far.
>
>
I am not sure how you have been communicating with ARIN, my experience with
them strongly suggest that after you put in your request, pickup the phone and
call them, speak to the analyst a
"Radu-Adrian Feurdean" writes:
> No, but I assume IPv6 is still subject to common-sense.
I don't see how you can make that assumption.
If common sense had been applied, then people would have realized that
there are more important parameters than address conservation to
consider when it comes t
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Oliver O'Boyle
wrote:
> Thanks for the input. I don't consider us an isp, though i suppose i can
> see how that argument could me made. Hotels are both simple and
> complicated. There is a mix of our staff and equipment, guests and their
> equipment, and brands wit
On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 18:59:36 +0200, "Radu-Adrian Feurdean" said:
> Now please show be a hotel room that has close to 65536 items in it
> (also tell me how much does a night in such a room cost).
> Then how many rooms may host close to 256 devices that can transmit and
> receive data ?
Well, as I
On Sat, Jul 8, 2017, at 19:13, Mel Beckman wrote:
> Radu,
>
> Are you assuming that a goal of IPv6 is to efficiently fill subsets? I
No, but I assume IPv6 is still subject to common-sense.
> among them easy mapping of MAC addresses for transition purposes and the
> security that discourages male
Hi Oliver, et al, I recall from when I attended an ARIN on the Road meeting in
Austin last year ( https://www.arin.net/ontheroad/ ), that the folks at ARIN
seemed to be open to discussing with you about getting the right size address
space into your hands for what you needed to accomplishwit
Radu,
Are you assuming that a goal of IPv6 is to efficiently fill subsets? I submit
that it is not. There are advantages to sparse address spaces, among them easy
mapping of MAC addresses for transition purposes and the security that
discourages malefactors from quickly enumerating active devic
On Sat, Jul 8, 2017, at 03:06, Owen DeLong wrote:
> consider a /48 per guest room as well as a /48 per hotel for the hotel
> itself.
I think the classfull madness of "/48 everywhere" should stop at some
point; the "every subnet is a /64" is enough already.
A /48 is 65536 *subnets*, with each subn
On 7/7/17, 1:07 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Oliver O'Boyle"
wrote:
> We're currently in the planning stage and can make
>whatever changes we need to.
I always say to just expect you’ll change your address plan three times.
Some people say, “I’ve only changed the address plan twice. . . so far.”
>
Oliver,
I’ll mostly second what Bill has said here. However, I encourage you to actually
consider a /48 per guest room as well as a /48 per hotel for the hotel itself.
Yes, this is excessive, but IPv6 was designed with these types of excesses in
mind.
We don’t yet know the scope and breadth of
Bill,
Thanks for the input. I don't consider us an isp, though i suppose i can
see how that argument could me made. Hotels are both simple and
complicated. There is a mix of our staff and equipment, guests and their
equipment, and brands with their equipment. But really it's just one
operating ent
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Oliver O'Boyle
wrote:
> We're an end-user org and qualify for a /40 assignment because we operate
> over 60 sites and some of those are/will be multihomed.
Hi Oliver,
I second Ken's notion. You're trying to be an ISP under the end-user rules.
However transient,
Thanks, Jima. I'll review the slides.
Without complicating the issue, we're trying to address a number of
challenges at the same time. There's no regional backhauling at this time.
Each site will be reachable via the internal network but will also
independently announce it's assignment to its ISP(
On 2017-07-07 11:07, Oliver O'Boyle wrote:
We would prefer to summarize at the /42 level, announced from our last-mile
providers. There are 3 primary last-mile providers so this strategy would
help significantly reduce the number of global routes being injected. If we
split regions evenly at /42
60 sites? Just ask for a /32.
/kc
On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 01:07:54PM -0400, Oliver O'Boyle said:
>Hello,
>
>If anyone out there could provide some input or advice on how to best
>handle our upcoming leap into IPv6, it would be much appreciated. I want to
>make sure we're playing nicely
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