RE: POTS Ending (Re: Operation Ghost Click)

2012-05-09 Thread Naslund, Steve
g.org Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: Re: POTS Ending (Re: Operation Ghost Click) On 04-May-12 04:11, Anurag Bhatia wrote: > Curious to know if naked DSL (DSL without dialtone & POTS link) is common > in North America? The availability of naked DSL varies from state to stat

Re: POTS Ending (Re: Operation Ghost Click)

2012-05-09 Thread Anurag Bhatia
You wrote 0 or o before everything and I felt you mean "zero". Never mind. Thanks! On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > >>> Premature and very dangerous move, the public is at great risk, only > >>> Sat phones seem to work when there is a natural disaster. Cell phones > >>> for

Re: POTS Ending (Re: Operation Ghost Click)

2012-05-09 Thread Randy Bush
>>> Premature and very dangerous move, the public is at great risk, only >>> Sat phones seem to work when there is a natural disaster. Cell phones >>> for the most part can't even connect to 911 >> >> tohoku quake >> o land voice phones did not work >> o mobile phone voice did not work >> o

Re: POTS Ending (Re: Operation Ghost Click)

2012-05-09 Thread Anurag Bhatia
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > > Premature and very dangerous move, the public is at great risk, only > > Sat phones seem to work when there is a natural disaster. Cell phones > > for the most part can't even connect to 911 > > tohoku quake > o land voice phones did not

Re: POTS Ending (Re: Operation Ghost Click)

2012-05-09 Thread Randy Bush
> Premature and very dangerous move, the public is at great risk, only > Sat phones seem to work when there is a natural disaster. Cell phones > for the most part can't even connect to 911 tohoku quake o land voice phones did not work o mobile phone voice did not work o mobile phone text

Re: POTS Ending (Re: Operation Ghost Click)

2012-05-09 Thread Henry Linneweh
May 6, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: Re: POTS Ending (Re: Operation Ghost Click) On 04-May-12 04:11, Anurag Bhatia wrote: > Curious to know if naked DSL (DSL without dialtone & POTS link) is common > in North America? The availability of naked DSL varies from state to state within the US, d

Re: POTS Ending (Re: Operation Ghost Click)

2012-05-07 Thread Jeff Wheeler
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: > http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-04-16/landline-service-becoming-obsolete/54321184/1 Indiana is doing away with its requirement that the incumbent LECs supply voice service to rural areas. Indiana also used to require a telephon

Re: POTS Ending (Re: Operation Ghost Click)

2012-05-07 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Brandt, Ralph wrote: I am not sure who uses DSL here. I have two people I know who use it, both are dissatisfied and if they had an alternative it woud not be. It is slow, unreliable compared to cable. That's a rather bold statement which I find hard to believe. Do you have any data to ba

RE: POTS Ending (Re: Operation Ghost Click)

2012-05-07 Thread Brandt, Ralph
717.506.4358 Email ralph.bra...@pateam.com <mailto:ralph.bra...@pateam.com> 5095 Ritter Rd Mechanicsburg PA 17055 From: Anurag Bhatia [mailto:m...@anuragbhatia.com] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 5:12 AM To: Brandt, Ralph Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: POTS Ending (Re: Operation Ghost Click) Curi

Re: POTS Ending (Re: Operation Ghost Click)

2012-05-06 Thread Stephen Sprunk
On 04-May-12 04:11, Anurag Bhatia wrote: > Curious to know if naked DSL (DSL without dialtone & POTS link) is common > in North America? The availability of naked DSL varies from state to state within the US, depending on how successful the telcos have been at bribing^Wlobbying the various state r

Re: POTS Ending (Re: Operation Ghost Click)

2012-05-06 Thread Joe Hamelin
On 2012-05-04, at 09:11, Anurag Bhatia wrote: > Curious to know if naked DSL (DSL without dialtone & POTS link) is common > in North America? Very common for business (retail, etc.) and I have it at home. We often call it a dry-loop. No battery or dial tone is common. Some LECs do deliver with

Re: POTS Ending (Re: Operation Ghost Click)

2012-05-06 Thread Joe Abley
On 2012-05-04, at 09:11, Anurag Bhatia wrote: > Curious to know if naked DSL (DSL without dialtone & POTS link) is common > in North America? It's common in Bell Canada's service region in Ontario and Québec. They still provide dial tone on each pair, though, to help techs avoid re-using appare

Re: POTS Ending (Re: Operation Ghost Click)

2012-05-04 Thread Anurag Bhatia
Curious to know if naked DSL (DSL without dialtone & POTS link) is common in North America? We don't have that available here in India yet apart from fact that PSTN <<>> IP connectivity is banned which brings up back to GSM/CDMA and POTS option. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Brandt, Ralph wrote:

RE: POTS Ending (Re: Operation Ghost Click)

2012-05-03 Thread Brandt, Ralph
Connecticut has such a bill pending. My suggestion to people there, Get a ham radio license and a 2 meter transceiver with a car adapter... Ralph Brandt York PA -Original Message- From: Jared Mauch [mailto:ja...@puck.nether.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:29 PM To: Frank B