RE: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-20 Thread Frank Bulk
g.org Subject: Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53 On 08/19/2011 11:14 PM, Frank Bulk wrote: > You can order custom-made patch cables that are outdoor rated from any > decent company that sells fiber patch cables for a living. If you want it > to be locatable, make sure it includes some

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-20 Thread Pete Carah
On 08/20/2011 02:07 PM, Matt Addison wrote: > On Aug 20, 2011, at 3:09, Pete Carah wrote: > > Note that he wanted to use fiber for lightning protection; the metal > strip rather negates that... > > > Only if you plug the metal strip into your equipment. We usually don't do > that with locate wire

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-20 Thread Leigh Porter
st 13, 2011 6:54 AM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53 > > I live on a farm and I have a number of data runs between buildings that are > copper ethernet pulled through buried conduits. (It was what I could afford > when I put it in). We have troub

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-20 Thread Matt Addison
On Aug 20, 2011, at 3:09, Pete Carah wrote: Note that he wanted to use fiber for lightning protection; the metal strip rather negates that... Only if you plug the metal strip into your equipment. We usually don't do that with locate wires (they usually sit unterminated, or maybe grounded, depe

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-20 Thread Pete Carah
On 08/19/2011 11:14 PM, Frank Bulk wrote: > You can order custom-made patch cables that are outdoor rated from any > decent company that sells fiber patch cables for a living. If you want it > to be locatable, make sure it includes some kind of metal strip. Note that he wanted to use fiber for lig

RE: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-19 Thread Frank Bulk
lto:d...@hetzel.org] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 6:54 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53 I live on a farm and I have a number of data runs between buildings that are copper ethernet pulled through buried conduits. (It was what I could afford when I put it in). We have tr

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-13 Thread Jared Mauch
On Aug 13, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Dorn Hetzel wrote: > [[[ Note: If I could find cheap enough switches with an optical interface I > would be switching to optical at this point! ]]] There are some media converters out there that take a SFP/GLC <-> RJ45 for $20-25, e.g.: http://www.amazon.com/gp/se

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-13 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Coy Hile" > > From: Alex Rubenstein > > The weakness will be only one provider of connectivity. > > Damn, and people claim I'm nuts! > > You know, you could go whole hog and multihome. This thread do give "multihome" a whole new meaning, don't it? Cheer

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-13 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Dorn Hetzel wrote: > Well, I would like to convert the whole outside mess to fiber to eliminate > this problem, and the per-foot price of 6 or 12 strand single mode cables is > pretty reasonable nowadays...  But, I'm not very current on the most > economical method

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-13 Thread Greg Ihnen
On Aug 13, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Dorn Hetzel wrote: > On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote: > On Aug 13, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Dorn Hetzel wrote: > > > I live on a farm and I have a number of data runs between buildings that are > > copper ethernet pulled through buried conduits. (It wa

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-13 Thread Dorn Hetzel
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote: > On Aug 13, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Dorn Hetzel wrote: > > > I live on a farm and I have a number of data runs between buildings that > are > > copper ethernet pulled through buried conduits. (It was what I could > afford > > when I put it in). We

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-13 Thread Greg Ihnen
On Aug 13, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Dorn Hetzel wrote: > I live on a farm and I have a number of data runs between buildings that are > copper ethernet pulled through buried conduits. (It was what I could afford > when I put it in). We have trouble from time to time with damage from > lightning. (I've

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-13 Thread Dorn Hetzel
I live on a farm and I have a number of data runs between buildings that are copper ethernet pulled through buried conduits. (It was what I could afford when I put it in). We have trouble from time to time with damage from lightning. (I've taken to using an intermediate "throwaway" 5-port switch

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-12 Thread Charles N Wyble
On 08/12/2011 08:53 PM, Alex Rubenstein wrote: > > >> . > Trust me, if I could, I would certainly do dark to my house. The last house I was in, was 500 feet from AT&T fiber and easy walking distance to the CO. My sister in law lives there now. I'm considering putting a rack or two in the garage f

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-12 Thread Charles N Wyble
On 08/12/2011 08:52 PM, Coy Hile wrote: > Damn, and people claim I'm nuts! > > You know, you could go whole hog and multihome. See I read that as having multiple homes. Not multiple feeds. LOL.

RE: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-12 Thread Alex Rubenstein
> Damn, and people claim I'm nuts! I know I am, thanks. > You know, you could go whole hog and multihome. Trust me, if I could, I would certainly do dark to my house. > I've got 1 cabinet and 1 two-post rack in the basement. I'm also > building out a small patch panel in a closet on the sec

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-12 Thread Coy Hile
> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 20:49:48 -0400 > From: Alex Rubenstein > I am in the process of building a house. I designed a room that can > accommodate three 24 x 36 inch cabinets or four post racks. I will likely > install a APC 2200 watt UPS in the bottom of two of the racks, and the third > will