Re: Internet Kill Switch.

2010-06-19 Thread Mark Smith
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 15:46:37 -0700 "Tomas L. Byrnes" wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Roland Perry [mailto:li...@internetpolicyagency.com] > > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 12:11 PM > > To: nanog@nanog.org > > Subject:

Re: Internet Kill Switch.

2010-06-19 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 6/19/2010 17:46, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote: > [Tomas L. Byrnes] The issue is more that everyone who DOES have access > has more than one device, and that many of those devices move around. I > won't get into the "NAT breaks the Internet" war, but it certainly does > limit the type of applications y

RE: Internet Kill Switch.

2010-06-19 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
> -Original Message- > From: Roland Perry [mailto:li...@internetpolicyagency.com] > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 12:11 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Internet Kill Switch. > > In article > , Matthew > Petach writes > >After all with a w

Re: Internet Kill Switch.

2010-06-19 Thread Roland Perry
In article , Matthew Petach writes After all with a world population of 7 billion, you certainly can't have "Internet [...] for everyone" with only 4 billion IP addresses, unless you put a *lot* of NAT in place. What's the average household size, especially in developing countries. And does

Re: Internet Kill Switch.

2010-06-18 Thread Zaid Ali
On 6/18/10 2:21 PM, "Matthew Petach" wrote: > He also seemed to miss one of the really, REALLY important points; > if "Internet is for everyone" were really true, then IPv6 adoption should > have been one of his driving points. After all with a world population of > 7 billion, you certainly can

Re: Internet Kill Switch.

2010-06-18 Thread Matthew Petach
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Tom Wright wrote: > What ever happened to this? > > http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3271.txt > > -- Tom Unfortunately, I think Vint was a little optimistic there, and failed to guess at the impact the financial collapse was going to have on our rate of innovation and

Re: Internet Kill Switch.

2010-06-18 Thread James Jones
look like like they are trying to squeeze both ends. http://www.crn.com/networking/225700593;jsessionid=IR3YB1SGLW2BHQE1GHPSKH4ATMY32JVN On 18/07/10 1:25 AM, Larry Sheldon wrote: On 6/18/2010 00:16, Tom Wright wrote: What ever happened to this? http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3271.txt

Re: Internet Kill Switch.

2010-06-18 Thread Peter Dambier
Maybe he has the power to switch it off - but only cn-nic has the power to reboot the hardware they sold us :) I am glad AX25 and AMPR.ORG even work without tcp/ip and IPv6 and they will continue to do even on solar power and batteries. Don't ever ask me to take my antennas down again. Cheer

Re: Internet Kill Switch.

2010-06-17 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 6/18/2010 00:16, Tom Wright wrote: > What ever happened to this? > > http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3271.txt Every thing in that RFC from enabling freedom of speech to high volumes of untaxed dollars is anathema to the current administration. And yeah, that is politics and not BGP fine tuning. B

Re: Internet Kill Switch.

2010-06-17 Thread Tom Wright
What ever happened to this? http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3271.txt -- Tom On 18/07/2010, at 2:37 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote: On 7/17/2010 23:59, Larry Sheldon wrote: http://www.prisonplanet.com/new-bill-gives-obama-kill-switch-to-shut-down-the-internet.html Highlights: "The federal government wou

Re: Internet Kill Switch.

2010-06-17 Thread Franck Martin
Subject: [SPAM] Re: Internet Kill Switch. On 7/17/2010 23:59, Larry Sheldon wrote: > http://www.prisonplanet.com/new-bill-gives-obama-kill-switch-to-shut-down-the-internet.html Highlights: "The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet ... figurative “kill swi

Re: Internet Kill Switch.

2010-06-17 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 7/17/2010 23:59, Larry Sheldon wrote: > http://www.prisonplanet.com/new-bill-gives-obama-kill-switch-to-shut-down-the-internet.html Highlights: "The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet ... figurative “kill switch” to seize control of the world wide web ...