Re: In search of uplink vendor

2012-01-12 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 01:56:38PM -0800, JC Dill wrote: > On 12/01/12 12:18 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > >- Original Message - > >>From: "Network IP Dog" > >>Isn't this Internet censorship? > >Repeat after me: It's not censorship unless it's imposed by a government. > > The wikipedia definit

Re: In search of uplink vendor

2012-01-12 Thread JC Dill
On 12/01/12 12:18 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: "Network IP Dog" Isn't this Internet censorship? Repeat after me: It's not censorship unless it's imposed by a government. The wikipedia definition seems more accurate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship " *Ce

Re: In search of uplink vendor

2012-01-12 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Network IP Dog" > Isn't this Internet censorship? Repeat after me: It's not censorship unless it's imposed by a government. I don't know that "per speaker" or "per topic" are required, but they're common. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth

Re: In search of uplink vendor

2012-01-12 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com > > >1. 1 Gbps link with complete block of UDP/ICMP protocol > > One question: > > 1. Not knowing anything about your business, is there a specific reason > > that you want "a complete block of UDP/ICMP protocol"? That can be > >

Re: In search of uplink vendor

2012-01-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 11:53:24 PST, Leo Bicknell said: > In a message written on Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:45:58AM -0800, Network IP Dog > wrote: > > Isn't this Internet censorship? > > It's not censorship when you pay someone to stuff a sock in your > own mouth. Collorary: It is, however, censorsh

Re: In search of uplink vendor

2012-01-12 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:53:24AM -0800, Leo Bicknell wrote: > In a message written on Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:45:58AM -0800, Network IP Dog > wrote: > > QUOTE " I know of a half dozen "DDoS Protection ISP's" that block all UDP > > and ICMP" > > > > Isn't this Internet censorship? > > It's not

Re: In search of uplink vendor

2012-01-12 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:45:58AM -0800, Network IP Dog wrote: > QUOTE " I know of a half dozen "DDoS Protection ISP's" that block all UDP > and ICMP" > > Isn't this Internet censorship? It's not censorship when you pay someone to stuff a sock in your own mouth. --

RE: In search of uplink vendor

2012-01-12 Thread Network IP Dog
QUOTE " I know of a half dozen "DDoS Protection ISP's" that block all UDP and ICMP" Isn't this Internet censorship? Ephesians 4:32 & Cheers!!! -Original Message- From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:bickn...@ufp.org] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 9:50 A

Re: In search of uplink vendor

2012-01-12 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: > Turn the OP's e-mail into a URL: http://www.impletec.com/ > >  Impletec Traffic Laboratory was established with the aim to develop and >  provide high-load solutions for Network Engineering, CDN, DDoS >  Protection and other high-level netwo

Re: In search of uplink vendor

2012-01-12 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 05:43:08PM +, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: > ndeed. and now i am curious.. what business plan/product/service > could make money w/o ICMP or UDP access.. ??? Turn the OP's e-mail into a URL: http://www.impletec.com/ Implete

Re: In search of uplink vendor

2012-01-12 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 08:41:23AM -0500, Justin M. Streiner wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: > > >On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 08:01:58AM -0500, Justin M. Streiner wrote: > >>On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Paul Kaminsky wrote: > >>>1. 1 Gbps link with complete block of UDP/ICMP

Re: In search of uplink vendor

2012-01-12 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 08:01:58AM -0500, Justin M. Streiner wrote: On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Paul Kaminsky wrote: 1. 1 Gbps link with complete block of UDP/ICMP protocol One question: 1. Not knowing anything about your business, is there a

Re: In search of uplink vendor

2012-01-12 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Justin M. Streiner wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Paul Kaminsky wrote: > >> We are at a stage where we need an all-out uplink vendor to fuel our >> business endeavor. The bells and whistles we need are: >> >> 1. 1 Gbps link with complete block of UDP/ICMP protocol >

Re: In search of uplink vendor

2012-01-12 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 08:01:58AM -0500, Justin M. Streiner wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Paul Kaminsky wrote: > > >We are at a stage where we need an all-out uplink vendor to fuel our > >business endeavor. The bells and whistles we need are: > > > >1. 1 Gbps link with complete block of UDP/ICMP

Re: In search of uplink vendor

2012-01-12 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Paul Kaminsky wrote: We are at a stage where we need an all-out uplink vendor to fuel our business endeavor. The bells and whistles we need are: 1. 1 Gbps link with complete block of UDP/ICMP protocol 2. BGP session with our AS 3. Ability to blackhole (no route to host) by