Re: Filtering "Illegal" Video

2025-02-26 Thread Scott Fisher via NANOG
I think the majority of services focus on the hosting providers since they are managing the data at-rest, typically through maintaining a list of file hashes. Examples: https://www.iwf.org.uk/ https://stopncii.org/ And then there’s the recognition stuff the big orgs do: https://www.microsoft.co

Re: Filtering "Illegal" Video

2025-02-22 Thread Jay
On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 10:30 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > However, the one I talked to more or less has a team whose purpose is to > search out > the content as if you were a user, build a signature, and push the signature > out. Sure. That is the approach of most web filters. It is an interestin

Re: Filtering "Illegal" Video

2025-02-22 Thread François-Frédéric Ozog
I created a company for that in 2008 at the time there were HADOPI discussions in France. Encryption is not the only problem to solve as you may have only egress or ingress traffic on the box, and you may be connected as a tap and need to inject « resets » to terminate « bad sessions ». In 2009

Re: Filtering "Illegal" Video

2025-02-20 Thread Collin Anderson
This thread wisely points out the technical reasons the request is difficult, but I think the underlying answer is a bit closer to Brian and Joel's response, which is that it's country-specific. In a fair amount of jurisdictions, there's either a centralized list or apparatus to deal with the requi

Re: Filtering "Illegal" Video

2025-02-20 Thread Mike Hammett
More than one vendor has claimed to be able to do this. I have been under the weather the past week, so I haven't been able to have conversations with the rest. However, the one I talked to more or less has a team whose purpose is to search out the content as if you were a user, build a signatu

Re: Filtering "Illegal" Video

2025-02-20 Thread Tom Beecher
> > Are there platforms out there that can accomplish this with any precision? 'With precision' being the operative phrase, then no. Plenty of stuff out there that can do things in this space, but all of it is brute force or kludgy methods. On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 4:00 PM Mike Hammett wrote:

Re: Filtering "Illegal" Video

2025-02-20 Thread Jay
On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 2:45 PM Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 1:21 PM Kevin McCormick wrote: > > Might want to look at Audible Magic. > > They do identification and filtering of copyrighted content. As far as I know the Audible Magic CopySense box does not exist as a produc

Re: Filtering "Illegal" Video

2025-02-20 Thread joel jaeggli
On 2/20/25 13:44, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 1:21 PM Kevin McCormick wrote: Might want to look at Audible Magic. https://www.audiblemagic.com/ They do identification and filtering of copyrighted content. University I worked at had a box that would identify students p

Re: Filtering "Illegal" Video

2025-02-20 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 1:21 PM Kevin McCormick wrote: > > Might want to look at Audible Magic. > > https://www.audiblemagic.com/ > > They do identification and filtering of copyrighted content. > > University I worked at had a box that would identify students pirating > content and would then bl

RE: Filtering "Illegal" Video

2025-02-20 Thread Kevin McCormick
Might want to look at Audible Magic. https://www.audiblemagic.com/ They do identification and filtering of copyrighted content. University I worked at had a box that would identify students pirating content and would then black hole their IP addresses. Helped the University avoid receiving and

Re: Filtering "Illegal" Video

2025-02-11 Thread Brian Turnbow
Hi Mike, Although I have never actually tried it, Sandvine does market a piracy solution service. They presented it to me about 2 years ago. Here in Italy the government has "piracy shield" , a platform donated by the A series soccer federation so no conflict of interest at all , to combat piracy

Re: Filtering "Illegal" Video

2025-02-10 Thread Mike Hammett
ay" To: "Mike Hammett" Cc: "NANOG" Sent: Monday, February 10, 2025 5:38:10 PM Subject: Re: Filtering "Illegal" Video On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 4:14 PM Mike Hammett wrote: .. > Are there platforms out there that can accomplish this with any precision? the Snort IDS

Re: Filtering "Illegal" Video

2025-02-10 Thread Jay
On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 4:14 PM Mike Hammett wrote: .. > Are there platforms out there that can accomplish this with any precision? the Snort IDS? Any product capable of deep packet inspection that can be plugged into a Tap or SPAN port. Many network-based IDS would allow you to write custom

Re: Filtering "Illegal" Video

2025-02-10 Thread John Adams
All of this communication typically takes place over encrypted TLS. I don't see how you can determine what is "illegal" or what is not illegal without some sort of TLS intercept going on, which no one is going to stand for. Identifying content without introspection is just going to not work at all