Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-19 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 05/12/2010 02:41 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: > > > --- da...@tcb.net wrote: From: Danny McPherson On May > 12, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Jay Nakamura wrote: > >> I just tested this and, yes, with Cisco to Cisco, changing the >> setting won't reset the connection but you have to reset the >> connection

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-14 Thread shake righa
Apologies, kindly ignore my earlier responce. Rgrds, Shake On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 3:46 PM, shake righa wrote: > Believe have narrowed down problem to layer 2. > > A ping to address 224.0.0.5 shows no reply. > > Believe problme to do with blocking of multicast > > Regards, > Shake > > On Fri,

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-14 Thread shake righa
Believe have narrowed down problem to layer 2. A ping to address 224.0.0.5 shows no reply. Believe problme to do with blocking of multicast Regards, Shake On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: > What about IP SLA with some EEM? This link may give you some ideas: > http://blog.io

RE: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-13 Thread Frank Bulk
What about IP SLA with some EEM? This link may give you some ideas: http://blog.ioshints.info/2008/01/ospf-default-route-based-on-ip-sla.html Frank -Original Message- From: Jay Nakamura [mailto:zeusda...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:35 PM To: NANOG Subject: BGP and convergen

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-12 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 09:52:48AM -0600, Danny McPherson wrote: > > The holdtime isn't technically negotiated, both sides convey their > value in the open message and the lower of the two is used by both BGP > speakers. IIRC, neither J or C reset the session with the timer > change, but the new

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-12 Thread Scott Weeks
--- matt...@walster.org wrote: From: Matthew Walster On 12 May 2010 02:36, Scott Weeks wrote: > You set the timers on your side and the two sides negotiate then select the > lowest timer settings. The BGP session automatically hard resets on some > equipment when changing the timers, so be

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-12 Thread Scott Weeks
--- da...@tcb.net wrote: From: Danny McPherson On May 12, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Jay Nakamura wrote: > I just tested this and, yes, with Cisco to Cisco, changing the setting > won't reset the connection but you have to reset the connection to > have the value take effect. I need to look up what hap

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-12 Thread Danny McPherson
On May 12, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Jay Nakamura wrote: > > I just tested this and, yes, with Cisco to Cisco, changing the setting > won't reset the connection but you have to reset the connection to > have the value take effect. I need to look up what happens when two > sides are set to different val

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-12 Thread Jay Nakamura
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Matthew Walster wrote: > On 12 May 2010 02:36, Scott Weeks wrote: >> You set the timers on your side and the two sides negotiate then select the >> lowest timer settings.  The BGP session automatically hard resets on some >> equipment when changing the timers,

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-12 Thread Matthew Walster
On 12 May 2010 02:36, Scott Weeks wrote: > You set the timers on your side and the two sides negotiate then select the > lowest timer settings.  The BGP session automatically hard resets on some > equipment when changing the timers, so be aware of that. Hold timers are negotiated in the OPEN me

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-11 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 09:31:51PM -0400, Jay Nakamura wrote: > Yes, I understand BFD. The question is, do carriers usually do BFD > with customers? And if they say no, are there other remedies? AT&T > doesn't seem to be even willing to change BGP timers. If anyone have > been able to talk AT&T

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-11 Thread Scott Weeks
--- zeusda...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jay Nakamura AT&T doesn't seem to be even willing to change BGP timers. If anyone have been able to talk AT&T or Qwest in doing so, it would really help to You set the timers on your side and the two sides negoti

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-11 Thread Jay Nakamura
Yes, I understand BFD. The question is, do carriers usually do BFD with customers? And if they say no, are there other remedies? AT&T doesn't seem to be even willing to change BGP timers. If anyone have been able to talk AT&T or Qwest in doing so, it would really help to find out how they convi

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-11 Thread Randy Bush
> I am looking for ways to detect neighbor being down faster so traffic > can be re-routed faster. BFD

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-11 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/11/2010 11:35, Jay Nakamura wrote: > So, we have two upstreams, both coming in on Ethernet. One of our > switch crashed and rebooted itself. Although we have other paths to > egress out the network, because the router's Ethernet interface didn't > go down, our router's BGP didn't realize the