Re: Advertising rented IPv4 prefix from a different ASN.

2016-08-05 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Andrew wrote: > Hello List, > [ clip, plenty of advice on these points ] > I feel if we just adverse the prefix it get put on a bogon list for prefix > hijacking. This space is rented long term but they are not interested in > reassigning the space to us. They

Re: Advertising rented IPv4 prefix from a different ASN.

2016-08-05 Thread Theodore Baschak
> On Aug 5, 2016, at 8:52 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 5/Aug/16 15:40, Soon Keat Neo wrote: > >> If you are just announcing more specific address space that you've obtained >> legitimately off their assigned address space, it should be no problem, >> just obtain an LoA and register it on the

Re: Advertising rented IPv4 prefix from a different ASN.

2016-08-05 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Blake Hudson wrote: > Andrew wrote on 8/4/2016 2:39 PM: >> This space is rented long term but they are not interested in reassigning >> the space to us. > > > Isn't this a violation of their agreement with ARIN > (https://www.arin.net/resources/request/reassignmen

Re: Advertising rented IPv4 prefix from a different ASN.

2016-08-05 Thread Soon Keat Neo
I'm not sure how bad of a practice it really is, however, I've seen it in use in multiple networks and ASes who sublet their IP space, and far as I've known, seem to work fine for most networks. Of course, this may also cause the University itself to be subject to unwanted traffic if for example t

Re: Advertising rented IPv4 prefix from a different ASN.

2016-08-05 Thread Tore Anderson
* Mark Tinka > On 5/Aug/16 15:40, Soon Keat Neo wrote: > > > If you are just announcing more specific address space that you've > > obtained legitimately off their assigned address space, it should > > be no problem, just obtain an LoA and register it on the different > > databases and you should

Re: Advertising rented IPv4 prefix from a different ASN.

2016-08-05 Thread Chris Welti
I would not recommend to do that. If you really do this, please make sure that the owner of the supernet (in this case the university) also does transit for the subnet (which they should as they are supposed to accept and forward traffic for the whole aggregate that they are announcing). Othe

Re: Advertising rented IPv4 prefix from a different ASN.

2016-08-05 Thread David Bass
> On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:52 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > >> On 5/Aug/16 15:40, Soon Keat Neo wrote: >> >> If you are just announcing more specific address space that you've obtained >> legitimately off their assigned address space, it should be no problem, >> just obtain an LoA and register it

Re: Advertising rented IPv4 prefix from a different ASN.

2016-08-05 Thread Bob Evans
It's possible that it is a university that has legacy IPs. You have to check. Thank You Bob Evans CTO > Andrew wrote on 8/4/2016 2:39 PM: >> This space is rented long term but they are not interested in >> reassigning the space to us. > > Isn't this a violation of their agreement with ARIN >

Re: Advertising rented IPv4 prefix from a different ASN.

2016-08-05 Thread Blake Hudson
Andrew wrote on 8/4/2016 2:39 PM: This space is rented long term but they are not interested in reassigning the space to us. Isn't this a violation of their agreement with ARIN (https://www.arin.net/resources/request/reassignments.html)?

Re: Advertising rented IPv4 prefix from a different ASN.

2016-08-05 Thread Bob Evans
Hi Andrew, It is possible, but I would do itHere is how and why. If they announce the larger CDIR you will need to keep them as one of you ISP's or you risk losing traffic due to other's inbound policy filtering. However, if they provide you a simple Letter of Authorization to announce the sma

Re: Advertising rented IPv4 prefix from a different ASN.

2016-08-05 Thread Mark Tinka
On 5/Aug/16 15:40, Soon Keat Neo wrote: > If you are just announcing more specific address space that you've obtained > legitimately off their assigned address space, it should be no problem, > just obtain an LoA and register it on the different databases and you > should be set to ask your upst

RE: Advertising rented IPv4 prefix from a different ASN.

2016-08-05 Thread Jürgen Jaritsch
Just create a more specific route obejct (for the /nn you plan to announce) at your RIR, ask the institute to sign a LOA and inform your upstreams. Announcing the more specific is nothing unusual. Jürgen Jaritsch Head of Network & Infrastructure ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH Telefon: +4

Re: Advertising rented IPv4 prefix from a different ASN.

2016-08-05 Thread Stefan Neufeind
On 04.08.2016 21:39, Andrew wrote: > Hello List, > > I work for a medium sized ISP. We are entering an agreement to rent > some IPv4 space from a local higher education institution. Being a > multi-homed ISP we would like to advertise the rented prefix from our > ASN. The prefix that will be ad

Re: Advertising rented IPv4 prefix from a different ASN.

2016-08-05 Thread Soon Keat Neo
If you are just announcing more specific address space that you've obtained legitimately off their assigned address space, it should be no problem, just obtain an LoA and register it on the different databases and you should be set to ask your upstreams to allow the announcements. Regards, Neo So