Re: AW: /27 the new /24

2015-10-03 Thread Randy Bush
> It's not too far off though. One way of looking at it is, for each > extra bit we allow, we potentially double the table size. that is math. in reality table size is proportional to multihoming + traffic engineering randy

Re: AW: /27 the new /24

2015-10-03 Thread Baldur Norddahl
Except we might very well reach 1+ million routes soon without accepting longer prefixes than /24. Also route updates is a concern - do I really need to be informed every time someone on the other end of the world resets a link? On 3 October 2015 at 12:57, William Waites wrote: > On Sat, 3 Oct 2

Re: AW: /27 the new /24

2015-10-03 Thread William Waites
On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 12:42:01 +0200, Baldur Norddahl said: > 2 million routes will not be enough if we go full /27. This is > not a scalable solution. Something else is needed to provide > multihoming for small networks (LISP?). It's not too far off though. One way of looking at it is

Re: AW: /27 the new /24

2015-10-03 Thread Baldur Norddahl
tp://www.anexia.at > > > > Anschrift Hauptsitz Klagenfurt: Feldkirchnerstraße 140, 9020 Klagenfurt > > Geschäftsführer: Alexander Windbichler > > Firmenbuch: FN 289918a | Gerichtsstand: Klagenfurt | UID-Nummer: AT > U63216601 > > > > > > -Original Message

Re: AW: /27 the new /24

2015-10-03 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
0 Klagenfurt > Geschäftsführer: Alexander Windbichler > Firmenbuch: FN 289918a | Gerichtsstand: Klagenfurt | UID-Nummer: AT U63216601 > > > -Original Message- > From: Max Tulyev [max...@netassist.ua] > Received: Samstag, 03 Okt. 2015, 9:11 > To: nanog@nanog.or

RE: AW: /27 the new /24

2015-10-03 Thread Jürgen Jaritsch
furt | UID-Nummer: AT U63216601 -Original Message- From: Max Tulyev [max...@netassist.ua] Received: Samstag, 03 Okt. 2015, 9:11 To: nanog@nanog.org [nanog@nanog.org] Subject: Re: AW: /27 the new /24 Which routers? DIR-300 with OpenWRT/Quagga? :) I think all above-the-trash level rou

Re: AW: /27 the new /24

2015-10-03 Thread Max Tulyev
Which routers? DIR-300 with OpenWRT/Quagga? :) I think all above-the-trash level routers supports >1M routes, isn't it? On 02.10.15 17:45, Jürgen Jaritsch wrote: > Hi, > > this would at least help to get rid of many old routing engines around the > world :) ... or people would keep their "learn

Re: AW: /27 the new /24

2015-10-02 Thread Mike Hammett
A better truth may be that I have no idea about bureaucracies... which I'll happily admit to. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Jürgen Jaritsch" To: "Mi

Re: AW: /27 the new /24

2015-10-02 Thread Randy Bush
> From: "Jürgen Jaritsch" > To: "Mike Hammett" , "NANOG" >> Stop using old shit. > Sorry, but the truth is: you have no idea about how earning revenue > works and you obviously also have no idea about carrier grade > networks. bingo!

Re: AW: /27 the new /24

2015-10-02 Thread Mike Hammett
Hrm. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Jürgen Jaritsch" To: "Mike Hammett" , "NANOG" Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 2:25:10 PM Subject: AW: /27 the new