Re: Quick Update on the North American BCOP Efforts

> If NANOG isn't developing and publishing BCOPs, what's the point of > NANOG other than a mailing list? what more point do you need? it has been a very successful and useful mailing list for a few decades. ripe has been the ops document repo since before this mailing list existed. it works wel

Re: Quick Update on the North American BCOP Efforts

On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 09:58:49AM -0500, Roland Dobbins wrote: > So, educating folks to the point that they understand that the > problem space exists is The Problem, writ large. I strongly concur with this. While there are some amazing experts out there who provide exemplary models of how to ru

Re: Quick Update on the North American BCOP Efforts

On 30 Sep 2015, at 23:37, Chris Grundemann wrote: The problem is twofold. Those that care the most are the ones who need the information, not those who have it (for obvious reasons). My view is the opposite - that those who have enough expertise, experience, and vision to understand the prob

Re: Quick Update on the North American BCOP Efforts

I wouldn't call it an issue.. it is precisely the potential multiplicity of practices which gives strong value to a "best Common Operational Practice" ... that was the experience working towards ratifying a DDoS/DoS BCOP ... and the BCOP keeps improving... all for the benefit of the Net Ops commun

Re: Quick Update on the North American BCOP Efforts

On 1 October 2015 at 00:37, Chris Grundemann wrote: > > Those that have the information are mostly busy > engineers, for whom writing documentation is not their favorite thing. > There's also the issue that if you ask two NANOG engineers a technical question you'll get (at least) five answers...

Re: Quick Update on the North American BCOP Efforts

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:25 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: "Chris Grundemann" > > > After receiving several off-line inquiries about the status of BCOP in > > North America I think it's appropriate to send a general announcement > > here. > > > > The biggest n

Re: Quick Update on the North American BCOP Efforts

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 9/30/2015 8:25 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > Guessing no one cares. Darwinism. - - ferg - -- Paul Ferguson PGP Public Key ID: 0x54DC85B2 Key fingerprint: 19EC 2945 FEE8 D6C8 58A1 CE53 2896 AC75 54DC 85B2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: G

Re: Quick Update on the North American BCOP Efforts

- Original Message - > From: "Chris Grundemann" > After receiving several off-line inquiries about the status of BCOP in > North America I think it's appropriate to send a general announcement > here. > > The biggest news here is that the current NANOG Board of Directors has > disbanded

Re: Quick Update on the North American BCOP Efforts

On 30 Sep 2015, at 10:17, Mike Hammett wrote: If NANOG isn't developing and publishing BCOPs, what's the point of NANOG other than a mailing list? --- Roland Dobbins

Re: Quick Update on the North American BCOP Efforts

; http://www.ics-il.com > > > > - Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Chris Grundemann" > > To: nanog@nanog.org > > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 9:41:38 AM > > Subject: Quick Update on the North American BCOP Efforts > > > > Hai

Re: Quick Update on the North American BCOP Efforts

#x27;s the point of NANOG > other than a mailing list? > > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > - Original Message - > > From: "Chris Grundemann" > To: nanog@nanog.org > Sent

Re: Quick Update on the North American BCOP Efforts

, September 30, 2015 9:41:38 AM Subject: Quick Update on the North American BCOP Efforts Hail NANOGers! After receiving several off-line inquiries about the status of BCOP in North America I think it's appropriate to send a general announcement here. The biggest news here is that t

Quick Update on the North American BCOP Efforts

Hail NANOGers! After receiving several off-line inquiries about the status of BCOP in North America I think it's appropriate to send a general announcement here. The biggest news here is that the current NANOG Board of Directors has disbanded the NANOG BCOP Committee. The stated rationale for thi