RE: QUIC, Connection IDs and NAT

2021-06-01 Thread Jean St-Laurent via NANOG
: 'The source of all things networking' Subject: RE: QUIC, Connection IDs and NAT The first thing that comes to mind is to check the NAT timers. By default, TCP is 86400 seconds or 24h. Udp is usually shorter at around 300 seconds or 5 minutes. This is not a standard, but it seems to

RE: QUIC, Connection IDs and NAT

2021-06-01 Thread Jean St-Laurent via NANOG
ject: QUIC, Connection IDs and NAT QUIC has Connection IDs independent from IP. This was done to make it easier to move from one IP network to another while keeping connections active, as most here will know. Does the existence of Connection IDs separate from IP mean that the host/IP contention ratio in

Re: QUIC, Connection IDs and NAT

2021-05-31 Thread George Michaelson
the 5tuple includes protocol so increased adoption of QUIC alongside TCP bound services effectively does increase the potential size of the NAT binding table but if we're really a single-browser model and all going to QUIC enabled webs, the effective outcome is to burn the port space in UDP, not in

Re: QUIC, Connection IDs and NAT

2021-05-31 Thread John Levine
It appears that Robert Brockway said: >Does the existence of Connection IDs separate from IP mean that >the host/IP contention ratio in CGNAT can be higher? IE, can a single >CGNAT device provide Internet access for a greater number of end-users? No, QUIC runs over UDP which runs over IP. QUI

QUIC, Connection IDs and NAT

2021-05-31 Thread Robert Brockway
QUIC has Connection IDs independent from IP. This was done to make it easier to move from one IP network to another while keeping connections active, as most here will know. Does the existence of Connection IDs separate from IP mean that the host/IP contention ratio in CGNAT can be higher? I