Re: PTP/Syncronized Ethernet maturity

2020-09-09 Thread m.Taichi via NANOG
Hi Geir, Gratefully thanks for your detailed sharing. Very informative and helpful to our network's synchronization planning and operation. We'll take your experiences into discussion and consideration. Get back to share our experiences with you soon. Thanks and best regards, Taichi On Wed, Se

Re: PTP/Syncronized Ethernet maturity

2020-09-09 Thread geir egeland via NANOG
Hi Taichi, It depends. GNSS at the cell site has its own operational challenges, for example making sure that the antenna has a clear enough view of the sky. A challenge in Asia is that very little of the fiber is in the ground, hence multiple fiber cuts happen on a daily basis which changes the

Re: PTP/Syncronized Ethernet maturity

2020-09-08 Thread m.Taichi via NANOG
Hi Geir, Can we say, from your production network experiences across Asia and Europe, that getting synchronization clock signal via GNSS receiver directly on each cell site is a much more reliable, stable, and simpler way than getting it by network-based PTP? Especially when there is WDM link used

Re: PTP/Syncronized Ethernet maturity

2020-09-08 Thread geir egeland via NANOG
We have mobile NWs in both Asia and Europe and also experience a lot of issues with PTP, - almost with every vendor. The instabilities, SW-bugs etc. related to PTP seems to indicate that very little testing of this code has been done in production networks. In some deployments we have been able

Re: PTP/Syncronized Ethernet maturity

2020-09-07 Thread m.Taichi via NANOG
Hi Macho, How are you? Glad to hear this from you. We also have PTP deployed in our transport network as one of the synchronization methods for our mobile networks. And we have encountered a lot of problems as well, such as instabilities, path asymmetry, large TIE variation, poor clock recovery p

PTP/Syncronized Ethernet maturity

2020-09-06 Thread Macho Pellegrini via NANOG
Hello everybody, We have deployed PTP in our mobile NW since late 2019 as a part of the 4G/5G, however we are seeing a lots of instabilities and interop issues, a lot of the issues have ended up with SW bugs in the OS, I have no specific question, however I got the impression that the technology/p