Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.

2014-01-25 Thread Jeff Tantsura
A path to a destination must be loop free, irrespectively. So it is not a combination of multiple but rather a list of loop free paths to a destination where any other metrics are used as tie-breakers. Another story - how do you get all that state distributed, inter-area cases, how do you make it

Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.

2014-01-25 Thread Bill Blackford
affic 10ms longer to get there. > > > > However I would like traffic to take Path 2 by adjusting the OSPF cost. > > > > > > I am looking for a formula that other people are using .p > > > > Thanks > > > > Erik > > > > > >

Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.

2014-01-25 Thread Mark Tinka
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 08:10:54 AM Graham Beneke wrote: > The auto-cost capability in some vendors devices seems to > have left many people ignoring the link metrics within > their IGP. From what I recall in the standards - > bandwidth is one possible link metric but certainly not > the on

Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.

2014-01-25 Thread Mark Tinka
On Friday, January 24, 2014 10:59:19 PM Owen DeLong wrote: > I wasn’t attempting to promote or discourage use of MPLS. > I was merely endeavoring to point out that in an MPLS > world, OSPF costs are not how you want to manage your > traffic. Again, only an issue when using RSVP-TE. I'd recommend

Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.

2014-01-25 Thread Mark Tinka
On Friday, January 24, 2014 10:36:48 PM Owen DeLong wrote: > Of course this all fails miserably if you are using > anything like MPLS underneath your OSPF. Specifically, fails miserably if you use RSVP-TE to build your MPLS backbone. LDP follows IGP cost (has to be manually enabled in Junos),

Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.

2014-01-24 Thread Graham Beneke
The auto-cost capability in some vendors devices seems to have left many people ignoring the link metrics within their IGP. From what I recall in the standards - bandwidth is one possible link metric but certainly not the only one. Network designers are free (and I would encourage to) pick whatever

Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.

2014-01-24 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Jeff Tantsura wrote: > Eric, > Issues: > 1.OSPF (SPF) can only produce a SPT based on cost (metric). > Anything else would require CSPF rather than SPF. > A CSPF based protocol would be a suitable algorithm for adding hard constraints, instead of preference, such

Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.

2014-01-24 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jan 24, 2014, at 12:41 PM, Raymond Burkholder wrote: >> >> Some networks I have worked with took the average latency of each link and >> assigned that (with some constant multiple) as the interface cost. >> >> Of course this all fails miserably if you are using anything like MPLS >> underne

Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.

2014-01-24 Thread Jeff Tantsura
- From: Erik Sundberg Date: Friday, January 24, 2014 12:26 PM To: Randy , "nanog@nanog.org" Subject: RE: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay. >I understand OSPF default calculation for cost doesn't include delay. I >am looking for a formula that I can use to manually set

RE: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.

2014-01-24 Thread Raymond Burkholder
> > Some networks I have worked with took the average latency of each link and > assigned that (with some constant multiple) as the interface cost. > > Of course this all fails miserably if you are using anything like MPLS > underneath your OSPF. > But then when using MPLS underneath, then MPLS

Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.

2014-01-24 Thread Owen DeLong
that other people are using .p > > Thanks > > Erik > > > -Original Message- > From: Randy [mailto:randy_94...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:03 PM > To: Erik Sundberg; nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay. >

RE: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.

2014-01-24 Thread Erik Sundberg
sday, January 23, 2014 9:03 PM To: Erik Sundberg; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay. - Original Message - > From: Erik Sundberg > To: "nanog@nanog.org" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:47 PM > Subject: OSPF Costs Formul

Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.

2014-01-23 Thread Randy
- Original Message - > From: Erik Sundberg > To: "nanog@nanog.org" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:47 PM > Subject: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay. > > What is everyone using for an OSPF cost formula that factors in a circuits >

OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.

2014-01-23 Thread Erik Sundberg
What is everyone using for an OSPF cost formula that factors in a circuits delay and bandwidth (10M-100G)??? Thanks in advance CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contai