RE: Network diagram software

2009-02-19 Thread (nanog) Brian Battle
; } It'll output a GIF flowchart-style diagram with the nodes connected as described above. It's also good for visualizing BGP AS paths . -Original Message- From: Ross Vandegrift [mailto:r...@kallisti.us] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:42 AM To: Mathias Wolkert Cc: nanog@nano

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-12 Thread Randy Bush
> As an aside, for ASCII network diagrams a la Internet Draft, I found that > Email Effects (http://www.sigsoftware.com/emaileffects/) was rather useful. also emacs artist-mode randy

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-12 Thread Tim Chown
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 04:11:38PM +0100, Mathias Wolkert wrote: > Thanks all for your input. > One thing that hits me is how different networks are documented. > Are there any best practice communicated (RFC/IETF)? As an aside, for ASCII network diagrams a la Internet Draft, I found that Email Ef

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Crist Clark
>>> On 2/11/2009 at 3:15 PM, wrote: > Quoting Mathias Wolkert : > >> I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. >> Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. >> I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. >> >> What do you use? >> >>

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Chris Garcia
  I'm surprised no one has mentioned NetBrain.  It can automatically (via discovery, or device configs) create Network diagrams that can be exported to Visio.     http://www.netbraintech.com/web_08/solutions/na.php   Chris Quoting Mathias Wolkert : > I'd like to know what software people are u

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Gary E. Miller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! Quoting Mathias Wolkert : > I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. > Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. > I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. I am surprised n

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread jay
Quoting Mathias Wolkert : I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. What do you use? /Tias I know what you mean about the straight jacket, V

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Malte von dem Hagen
Hej, Am 11.02.2009 19:13 Uhr, John Osmon schrieb: > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 04:11:38PM +0100, Mathias Wolkert wrote: >> I like the idea of having one physical version showing cables and devices >> (CDP/EDP/LLDP view pretty much) and one logical view showing IP subnets. >> Many times I found *docum

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Michael Hallgren
Le mercredi 11 février 2009 à 23:51 +0100, Michael Hallgren a écrit : > Le mercredi 11 février 2009 à 23:34 +0100, Malte von dem Hagen a écrit : > > > > Am 11.02.2009 21:50 Uhr, Craig Holland schrieb: > > > Mathias Wolkert wrote: > > > > Did he? > > > > OmniGraffle is the better Visio. > >

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Michael Hallgren
Le mercredi 11 février 2009 à 23:34 +0100, Malte von dem Hagen a écrit : > > Am 11.02.2009 21:50 Uhr, Craig Holland schrieb: > > Mathias Wolkert wrote: > > Did he? > > OmniGraffle is the better Visio. > > > > ...except I've not found any good networking/systems stencils for > > omnigraffle

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Malte von dem Hagen
Am 11.02.2009 21:50 Uhr, Craig Holland schrieb: > Mathias Wolkert wrote: Did he? OmniGraffle is the better Visio. > > ...except I've not found any good networking/systems stencils for > omnigraffle (even on graffletopia). I tried to import the visio ones in 5.0 > but that didn't work too

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Craig Holland
Mathias Wolkert wrote: >>> OmniGraffle is the better Visio. ...except I've not found any good networking/systems stencils for omnigraffle (even on graffletopia). I tried to import the visio ones in 5.0 but that didn't work too well. Someone out there have something for omnigraffle that rivals t

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread seph
Colin Alston writes: > Mathias Wolkert wrote: >> I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. >> Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. >> I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. > > Omnigrafle and Dia are all I can add to your

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Feb 11, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: -Original Message- From: Kevin Day [mailto:toa...@dragondata.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 2:16 PM To: Mathias Wolkert Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Network diagram software On Feb 11, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Mathias

RE: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
> -Original Message- > From: Kevin Day [mailto:toa...@dragondata.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 2:16 PM > To: Mathias Wolkert > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Network diagram software > > > On Feb 11, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Mathias Wolkert wrote: &

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Kevin Day
On Feb 11, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Mathias Wolkert wrote: I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. What do you use? /Tias Two packages that I'm l

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread John Osmon
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 04:11:38PM +0100, Mathias Wolkert wrote: [...] > I like the idea of having one physical version showing cables and devices > (CDP/EDP/LLDP view pretty much) and one logical view showing IP subnets. > Many times I found *documented* networks where this is all combined making

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Ken A
Ray Burkholder wrote: Mathias Wolkert wrote: I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. What do you use? OmniGraffle is the better Visio. Omn

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Jason Dearborn
I use the free basic version of http://www.gliffy.com for mock-ups. It doesn't go as deep as OmniGraffle or Visio, but it's enough to illustrate concepts to NOC guys or executives.

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Amit Kaushal
Concept Draw is compatible with Windows and Mac. UI is similar to Visio. http://www.conceptdraw.com/en/ On Feb 11, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Ray Burkholder wrote: Mathias Wolkert wrote: I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. Visio is obvious but feels like a

RE: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Ray Burkholder
> > > Mathias Wolkert wrote: > >> I'd like to know what software people are using to document > networks. > >> Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. > >> I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. > >> What do you use? > > > > OmniGraffle is the better Vis

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Brian Feeny
OmniGraffle all the way On Feb 11, 2009, at 8:12 AM, Malte von dem Hagen wrote: Mathias Wolkert wrote: I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowaday

RE: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
> -Original Message- > From: Ross Vandegrift [mailto:r...@kallisti.us] > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:42 AM > To: Mathias Wolkert > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Network diagram software > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 02:06:09PM +0100, Mathias Wolker

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Adam Fields
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 07:27:35AM -0800, Bill Woodcock wrote: > > OmniGraffle is the better Visio. > > Me three. We all use OmniGraffle. And Adobe Illustrator to create new > objects. I use Omnigraffle all the time. Check out graffletopia for new stencils: http://www.graffletopia.com/ (

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread chuck goolsbee
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 07:27:35 -0800 (PST), Bill Woodcock wrote: > > OmniGraffle is the better Visio. > > Me three. We all use OmniGraffle. And Adobe Illustrator to create new > objects. Me four, except I'm too lazy to create new objects and just slurp them from Graffletopia:

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Min
yWorks http://www.yworks.com/en/index.html worth a try, its yEd is free. m On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Malte von dem Hagen wrote: > Hi, > > Ross Vandegrift wrote: >> >> Is there any application that takes some kind of *simple* description >> and produces a (possibly not so beautiful) pictur

RE: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Stephens, Josh
uary 11, 2009 9:06 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Network diagram software On Feb 11, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Malte von dem Hagen wrote: > Hi, > > Ross Vandegrift wrote: >> Is there any application that takes some kind of *simple* description >> and produces a (possibly not so bea

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Bill Woodcock
> OmniGraffle is the better Visio. Me three. We all use OmniGraffle. And Adobe Illustrator to create new objects. -Bill

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Mathias Wolkert
Thanks all for your input. One thing that hits me is how different networks are documented. Are there any best practice communicated (RFC/IETF)? I like the idea of having one physical version showing cables and devices (CDP/EDP/LLDP view pretty much) and one logical view showing IP subnets. Many t

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Brad Fleming
On Feb 11, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Malte von dem Hagen wrote: Hi, Ross Vandegrift wrote: Is there any application that takes some kind of *simple* description and produces a (possibly not so beautiful) picture? yes, Omnigraffle here as well. Can be simple AND beautiful. rgds, .m Agreed. We use

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Malte von dem Hagen
Hi, Ross Vandegrift wrote: Is there any application that takes some kind of *simple* description and produces a (possibly not so beautiful) picture? yes, Omnigraffle here as well. Can be simple AND beautiful. rgds, .m

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread David Andersen
On Feb 11, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Ross Vandegrift wrote: I'd like to put a second request. I often want to very quickly mock-up a diagram that I'm going to use for myself or for internal purposes. Is there any application that takes some kind of *simple* description and produces a (possibly not so

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 02:06:09PM +0100, Mathias Wolkert wrote: > I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. > Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. > I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. > > What do you use? I'd like to

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Chris Meidinger
On 11.02.2009, at 14:12, Malte von dem Hagen wrote: Mathias Wolkert wrote: I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. What do you use? OmniGraf

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Joe Provo
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 02:06:09PM +0100, Mathias Wolkert wrote: > I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. > Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. > I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. > > What do you use? To what end?

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Malte von dem Hagen
Mathias Wolkert wrote: I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. What do you use? OmniGraffle is the better Visio. rgds, .m

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread William Warren
On 2/11/2009 8:06 AM, Mathias Wolkert wrote: I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. What do you use? /Tias network notepad

Re: Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Colin Alston
Mathias Wolkert wrote: > I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. > Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. > I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. Omnigrafle and Dia are all I can add to your list

Network diagram software

2009-02-11 Thread Mathias Wolkert
I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. What do you use? /Tias