> From: Ricky Beam [mailto:jfb...@gmail.com]
> On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:08:44 -0400, Michael Kehoe
> wrote:
> > As far as I'm aware (someone please correct me if I'm wrong), but Cisco
> > is the only vendor that supports this.
>
> Ascend did as well. I used to backup the MAX-TNT's via snmp.
Made
On Oct 25, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Michael Kehoe wrote:
> As far as I'm aware (someone please correct me if I'm wrong), but Cisco is
> the only vendor that supports this.
>
> It's almost as easy to have a python/ perl script to do the exact same
> thing as Matthew described but with SSH instead of SN
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:08:44 -0400, Michael Kehoe
wrote:
As far as I'm aware (someone please correct me if I'm wrong), but Cisco
is the only vendor that supports this.
Ascend did as well. I used to backup the MAX-TNT's via snmp.
(I've not researched the subject in over a decade.)
--Ricky
How simple do you want to get? We do something like this:
!
archive
path tftp://1.2.3.4/$h-
write-memory
!
-Original Message-
From: Job Snijders [mailto:job.snijd...@hibernianetworks.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:25 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Network configuration
SNMP is a good/ quick way to do it, however you should keep in mind that
your configurations are not being sent securely if you're using tftp. Cisco
devices do allow you to also use ftp, rcp, scp and sftp.
As far as I'm aware (someone please correct me if I'm wrong), but Cisco is
the only vendor t
On (2013-10-25 14:27 -0400), Phil Bedard wrote:
> The vendor config->abstract data (really structured data) is the point of
> YANG definitions. I think I'm correct but Tail-F's system works by
> interpreter based on those definitions. The trick is getting the
> standards bodies and vendors to s
The vendor config->abstract data (really structured data) is the point of
YANG definitions. I think I'm correct but Tail-F's system works by
importing the YANG definitions from the router and it builds the CLI
interpreter based on those definitions. The trick is getting the
standards bodies and v
On 10/25/13 07:59, Matthew Newton wrote:
For the last ~8 years we've used a very simple in-house bash
script that uses SNMP to tell the switch to write its config using
tftp, and then does a wr mem. It then checks the configs into a
subversion repository and e-mails out any diffs.
One criteria w
> I am unsure what we as networkers have done in the past, but I am sure
> we've done our fair share of atonement and don't have to keep using
> RANCID.
Some people in this thread have been mentioning config generators. There is
/ was something called netomata. A web search brings up various ref
On (2013-10-25 10:22 -0400), Phil Bedard wrote:
> There are companies like Tail-F who are trying to use things like YANG
Tail-F is very cool, but it needs support for both direction.
Abstract data -> Vendor Config(easy problem, just agnostic ascii template)
Vendor Config -> Abstract data
I've been intrigued by the stuff going on with NetKit and Autonetkit (
http://www.autonetkit.org). See the preso from Pycon 2013 in Australia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGK5jjyUBCQ
It seems like all the bits are available between the various efforts of
applications but nothing that really ti
There are companies like Tail-F who are trying to use things like YANG
definitions to dynamically build a standardized CLI which is sort of
cross-platform compatible. The CLI you connect to is external to any
network equipment which records changes, does checking ahead of time, and
records atomic
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 02:27:42PM +0200, Job Snijders wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:59:48PM +0100, Matthew Newton wrote:
>
> > I'll try and post the script (250 lines) somewhere if anyone's
> > interested.
>
> It is almost always good to open source your tools, for others to learn
> and be
On (2013-10-25 10:43 +0200), Martin Pels wrote:
> The diff-ed backups that rancid provides serve another purpose: verifying that
> what your NMS says should be configured matches the actual device
> configurations.
Diffing one rancid config to another rancid config would not help with this at
all
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:59:48PM +0100, Matthew Newton wrote:
> I'll try and post the script (250 lines) somewhere if anyone's
> interested.
It is almost always good to open source your tools, for others to learn
and benefit from! :-)
Kind regards,
Job
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On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 11:25:26PM +0200, Job Snijders wrote:
> As I am evaluating our path forward, I've compiled a small list of open
> source projects with some biased highlights. Your feedback is most
> welcome, maybe I missed some interesting projects or developments. I
> would also be very
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:07:49 +0300
Saku Ytti wrote:
> On (2013-10-24 23:05 -0400), Erik Muller wrote:
>
> > Rancid certainly has its warts, but other than needing to test, pull
> > hair, and patch things for new OS/platform deployments, it still
> > generally Just Works once you have it installe
On (2013-10-24 23:05 -0400), Erik Muller wrote:
> Rancid certainly has its warts, but other than needing to test, pull
> hair, and patch things for new OS/platform deployments, it still
> generally Just Works once you have it installed, IME... and
> references like
For us problem with rancid is t
I know you said open source, but we're using Solarwinds Cattools with very good
results. We also have Rancid running in the background.
>
> From: Job Snijders
>To: nanog@nanog.org
>Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 2:25 PM
>Subject: N
Rancid is great, we use it. It's hard to justify paying money for
something that really isn't that complicated, especially stupid licensing
fees.
One of my problems with rancid though is that many of the commands it runs
can be somewhat intrusive, and also smacks of trying to use a configuration
Or use perfectly good (RANCID + cvsweb) free software. Hmm.
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013, Kenneth McRae wrote:
By device or you can purchase an unlimited device count..
On Oct 24, 2013 8:59 PM, "Tammy Firefly" wrote:
Is that licensed per device or per user out of curiosity ?
Sent from my iPhone
O
By device or you can purchase an unlimited device count..
On Oct 24, 2013 8:59 PM, "Tammy Firefly" wrote:
> Is that licensed per device or per user out of curiosity ?
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 24, 2013, at 21:45, Kenneth McRae
> wrote:
>
> > Hiw about SolarWinds Config Mgmt software?
Is that licensed per device or per user out of curiosity ?
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 24, 2013, at 21:45, Kenneth McRae wrote:
> Hiw about SolarWinds Config Mgmt software?
> On Oct 24, 2013 8:38 PM, "Jimmy Hess" wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Job Snijders <
>> job.snijd...@hibe
amhost.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 11:45 PM
To: Jimmy Hess
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Network configuration archiving
Hiw about SolarWinds Config Mgmt software?
On Oct 24, 2013 8:38 PM, "Jimmy Hess" wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Job Snijders <
> job.
Hiw about SolarWinds Config Mgmt software?
On Oct 24, 2013 8:38 PM, "Jimmy Hess" wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Job Snijders <
> job.snijd...@hibernianetworks.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> > I am unsure what we as networkers have done in the past, but I am sure
> > we've done our fair
No it's not rancids fault :)
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 24, 2013, at 21:25, Nick Hilliard wrote:
> On 25/10/2013 11:19, Tammy Firefly wrote:
>> Rancid is known to crash cisco devices doing config backups. I've seen
>> it on 7200/7500 routers multiple times
>
> this isn't a rancid problem thou
Yes I 100% agree its a IOS bug. It had something to do with the way it ended a
ssh session.
That was one reason we got rid of cisco at our edges and use juniper which has
config backup built into JunOS (via ssh/FTP)
--Tammy
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 24, 2013, at 21:29, Jimmy Hess wrote:
>
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Job Snijders <
job.snijd...@hibernianetworks.com> wrote:
> Dear all,
> I am unsure what we as networkers have done in the past, but I am sure
> we've done our fair share of atonement and don't have to keep using
> RANCID.
>
Does the nature of the codebase and futu
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Tammy Firefly wrote:
> Rancid is known to crash cisco devices doing config backups. I've seen it
> on 7200/7500 routers multiple times
>
I don't doubt it, but since RANCID only uses show commands; I would
suspect that any similar tool that uses similar show co
On 25/10/2013 11:19, Tammy Firefly wrote:
> Rancid is known to crash cisco devices doing config backups. I've seen
> it on 7200/7500 routers multiple times
this isn't a rancid problem though.
Nick
Rancid is known to crash cisco devices doing config backups. I've seen it on
7200/7500 routers multiple times
Tammy
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 24, 2013, at 21:05, Erik Muller wrote:
> On 10/24/13 17:25 , Job Snijders wrote:
>> Some might say "it took ages to get rancid to do kinda what we wan
On 10/24/13 17:25 , Job Snijders wrote:
Some might say "it took ages to get rancid to do kinda what we want!",
but not all software ages well. One might work in environments where
archived configurations are needed to even start provisioning, one
might desire a separation between actual config an
Dear all,
I am unsure what we as networkers have done in the past, but I am sure
we've done our fair share of atonement and don't have to keep using
RANCID.
Some might say "it took ages to get rancid to do kinda what we want!",
but not all software ages well. One might work in environments whe
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