RE: Making interconnection agreements between networks more dynamic

2017-05-24 Thread Aaron Gould
ubject: RE: Making interconnection agreements between networks more dynamic > > This sounds something like the MEF Third Network type stuff I > > mean the ability to setup connection dynamically across network > > boundaries on-the-fly, via an ordering system... that has alway

Re: Making interconnection agreements between networks more dynamic

2017-05-23 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > Pedro de Botelho Marcos wrote: > > The current approach for establishing > > agreements is cumbersome, typically requiring lengthy discussions. > > i'm not sure the available data supports this conclusion: > > > http://berec.europa.eu/eng/do

Re: Making interconnection agreements between networks more dynamic

2017-05-23 Thread Randy Bush
>> read "which is not mpls" a few more times. than maybe read a bit on >> gmpls and optical switching. you may find >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalized_Multi-Protocol_Label_Switching >> a reasonable place to start. > Ok, but does this still not pre-suppose that an appropriate physical >

RE: Making interconnection agreements between networks more dynamic

2017-05-23 Thread Keith Medcalf
> >> to me, this was the dream of optical switching and gmpls (which is > >> not mpls) > > And, pray tell, what is the use of me setting up "peering" between > > myself and a network on the other side of the world when the data > > still has to flow over the same connections, merely encapsulated >

Re: Making interconnection agreements between networks more dynamic

2017-05-23 Thread Randy Bush
>> to me, this was the dream of optical switching and gmpls (which is >> not mpls) > And, pray tell, what is the use of me setting up "peering" between > myself and a network on the other side of the world when the data > still has to flow over the same connections, merely encapsulated > inside a t

Re: Making interconnection agreements between networks more dynamic

2017-05-23 Thread Steven Tardy
> On May 23, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Pedro de Botelho Marcos > wrote: > > consider > acquiring extra "bandwidth as a service" that is available on demand just > when one needs it, Wasn't this the initial promise of SDN? Hand wave. Magically connected endpoints. All QoS'd and bandwidth-guaranteed co

RE: Making interconnection agreements between networks more dynamic

2017-05-23 Thread Keith Medcalf
> > This sounds something like the MEF Third Network type stuff I mean > > the ability to setup connection dynamically across network boundaries > > on-the-fly, via an ordering system... that has always sounded awesome > > to me... and I've wondered how we could actually get there one day. > t

Re: Making interconnection agreements between networks more dynamic

2017-05-23 Thread LHC (k9m)
You need an extra 9 lines to handle the overrun. On May 23, 2017 12:10:52 PM PDT, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: >On Tue, 23 May 2017 15:07:14 -0300, Pedro de Botelho Marcos said: > >> Dynamic agreements offer many opportunities. For example, consider >> acquiring extra "bandwidth as a service" th

Re: Making interconnection agreements between networks more dynamic

2017-05-23 Thread Randy Bush
> This sounds something like the MEF Third Network type stuff I mean > the ability to setup connection dynamically across network boundaries > on-the-fly, via an ordering system... that has always sounded awesome > to me... and I've wondered how we could actually get there one day. to me, this

Re: Making interconnection agreements between networks more dynamic

2017-05-23 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Tue, 23 May 2017 15:07:14 -0300, Pedro de Botelho Marcos said: > Dynamic agreements offer many opportunities. For example, consider > acquiring extra "bandwidth as a service" that is available on demand just > when one needs it, similarly to how one might spin up extra VMs in the > cloud to han

RE: Making interconnection agreements between networks more dynamic

2017-05-23 Thread Aaron Gould
ike a lot of initial cooperation -Aaron -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Pedro de Botelho Marcos Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 1:07 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Making interconnection agreements between networks more dynamic Hello, We are a

Re: Making interconnection agreements between networks more dynamic

2017-05-23 Thread Nick Hilliard
Pedro de Botelho Marcos wrote: > The current approach for establishing > agreements is cumbersome, typically requiring lengthy discussions. i'm not sure the available data supports this conclusion: > http://berec.europa.eu/eng/document_register/subject_matter/berec/download/0/6574-2016-survey-of-

Making interconnection agreements between networks more dynamic

2017-05-23 Thread Pedro de Botelho Marcos
Hello, We are a group of networking researchers from UFRGS, UCLouvain and KAUST. We are working towards an approach to make interconnection agreements between networks more dynamic. The current approach for establishing agreements is cumbersome, typically requiring lengthy discussions. To accommod