Re: MAP-T (was: Re: V6 still not supported)

2022-03-31 Thread Ben Plimpton
G > Reply-To: Vasilenko Eduard > Date: Friday, March 25, 2022 at 11:17 AM > To: Jared Brown , "nanog@nanog.org" > Subject: RE: MAP-T (was: Re: V6 still not supported) > >Hi Jared, >Theoretically, MAP is better. But > >1. Nobody has implemented i

Re: MAP-T (was: Re: V6 still not supported)

2022-03-28 Thread Rajiv Asati (rajiva) via NANOG
of Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG Reply-To: Vasilenko Eduard Date: Friday, March 25, 2022 at 11:17 AM To: Jared Brown , "nanog@nanog.org" Subject: RE: MAP-T (was: Re: V6 still not supported) Hi Jared, Theoretically, MAP is better. But 1. Nobody has implemented it for

Re: MAP-T (was: Re: V6 still not supported)

2022-03-26 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG
It comes from actual measurements in residential networks that already offer IPv6. In typical residential networks, a very high % of the traffic is Google/Youtube, Netflix, Facebook, CDNs, etc., which all are IPv6 enabled. Typically, is also similar in mobile networks, and this has been confirm

Re: MAP-T (was: Re: V6 still not supported)

2022-03-26 Thread John Levine
It appears that JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG said: >At the end, if you turn on IPv6 to residential customers, typically you will >get 70-80% IPv6 traffic, so the state in the NAT64 using 464XLAT is lower and >lower every day. Not disagreeing, but where does that number come from? Anectodall

v6ops-transition-comparison (was: Re: MAP-T (was: Re: V6 still not supported))

2022-03-26 Thread John Curran
Jordi - Very nice indeed! Please pass along my thanks to your coauthors for this most excellent (and badly needed) document! :-) /John > On 25 Mar 2022, at 4:53 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG > wrote: > > The cost of deploying MAP in CPEs is a bit higher than 464XLAT, which i

RE: MAP-T (was: Re: V6 still not supported)

2022-03-25 Thread Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG
] Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 12:44 AM To: Vasilenko Eduard ; Jared Brown ; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: MAP-T (was: Re: V6 still not supported) FWIW, MAP has been deployed by few operators (in at least 3 continents that I am aware of). Charter communications is one of the public references

Re: MAP-T (was: Re: V6 still not supported)

2022-03-25 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG
@nanog.org Subject: MAP-T (was: Re: V6 still not supported) Most IPv6 transition mechanisms involve some form of (CG)NAT. After watching a NANOG presentation on MAP-T, I have a question regarding this. Why isn't MAP-T more prevalent, given that it is (almost) stateless on the provider s

RE: MAP-T (was: Re: V6 still not supported)

2022-03-25 Thread Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG
big enough number of UDP/TCP ports for every subs (even most silent/conservative). Ed/ -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+vasilenko.eduard=huawei@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jared Brown Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 4:49 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: MAP-T (was: Re: V6

MAP-T (was: Re: V6 still not supported)

2022-03-25 Thread Jared Brown
Most IPv6 transition mechanisms involve some form of (CG)NAT. After watching a NANOG presentation on MAP-T, I have a question regarding this. Why isn't MAP-T more prevalent, given that it is (almost) stateless on the provider side? Is it CPE support, the headache of moving state to the CPE, ven