Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.02.17 20:48, jim deleskie wrote: > Absolutely. I've worked on networks where I'm was amazed on someday > we held it all together, but that is truly when you learn the most. I'm very, very happy that there are people out there who can actually see that... Steve

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread jim deleskie
Absolutely. I've worked on networks where I'm was amazed on someday we held it all together, but that is truly when you learn the most. -jim On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > On 2010.02.17 20:45, jim deleskie wrote: >> Of course all designs are limited to the budget you h

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.02.17 20:45, jim deleskie wrote: > Of course all designs are limited to the budget you have to build the > network :) Heh, yeah, but it's unbelievable what one can learn on an eBay diet when they put their entire heart, soul and dedication into it! Steve

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread jim deleskie
Of course all designs are limited to the budget you have to build the network :) On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > On 2010.02.17 19:41, jim deleskie wrote: >> Border/Core/Access is great thinking when your a sales rep for a >> vendor that sells under power kit.  No reason f

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.02.17 20:19, Jared Mauch wrote: > On Feb 17, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> I've got a couple of questions that I'd like operational feedback about. >> . >> >> Although we're an ISP, we currently are only an access provider. We >> don't yet provide any transit

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.02.17 19:41, jim deleskie wrote: > Border/Core/Access is great thinking when your a sales rep for a > vendor that sells under power kit. No reason for it any more. Hi Jim, Unfortunately, I have a mix of EOL Cisco gear in my network, along with other random custom-built software routers,

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Jared Mauch
On Feb 17, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > Hey all, > > I've got a couple of questions that I'd like operational feedback about. > . > > Although we're an ISP, we currently are only an access provider. We > don't yet provide any transit services, but the requirement for us to do > so m

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.02.17 19:38, Scott Weeks wrote: > --- st...@ibctech.ca wrote: > > layered. My thinking is that my 'upstream' connections should be moved > out of the core, and onto the edge. My reasoning for this is so that I > > What do other providers do? Are your transit peers connected directly to >

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread James Jones
Ditto Sent from my iPhone On Feb 17, 2010, at 7:38 PM, "Scott Weeks" wrote: --- st...@ibctech.ca wrote: From: Steve Bertrand layered. My thinking is that my 'upstream' connections should be moved out of the core, and onto the edge. My reasoning for this is so that I What do other prov

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread jim deleskie
I've done it much larger then small networks. Dependency is much more related to gear used then network size. -jim On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: > > > --- deles...@gmail.com wrote: > From: jim deleskie > > > Border/Core/Access is great thinking when your a sales rep for a

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Scott Weeks
--- deles...@gmail.com wrote: From: jim deleskie Border/Core/Access is great thinking when your a sales rep for a vendor that sells under power kit. No reason for it any more. --- I'd imagine it depends on the network size. Collapsing functionali

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread jim deleskie
Border/Core/Access is great thinking when your a sales rep for a vendor that sells under power kit. No reason for it any more. -jim On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: > > > --- st...@ibctech.ca wrote: > From: Steve Bertrand > > layered. My thinking is that my 'upstream' connec

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Scott Weeks
--- st...@ibctech.ca wrote: From: Steve Bertrand layered. My thinking is that my 'upstream' connections should be moved out of the core, and onto the edge. My reasoning for this is so that I What do other providers do? Are your transit peers connected directly to the core? I can understand suc

Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
Hey all, I've got a couple of questions that I'd like operational feedback about. . Although we're an ISP, we currently are only an access provider. We don't yet provide any transit services, but the requirement for us to do so may creep up on a very small scale shortly. Nonetheless... I'm on th