Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut

2017-08-24 Thread Fletcher Kittredge
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Rod Beck wrote: > Unless I am mistaken, that is an old legacy route. I don't think it is a > new build. I know at one time Hibernia was selling its undersea link from > Halifax to Boston as a back up for that route. On the other hand, there > have been some Canadi

Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut

2017-08-24 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
On 2017-08-16 18:29, Christopher Morrell wrote: > Let’s not forget that all POTS and cell service was offline during the > outage - even for local and 911 service. It would be interesting to know how incumbent telco services within Aliant territory became dependent on a link to central Canada. Wh

Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut

2017-08-24 Thread Rod Beck
not legacy. Regards, Roderick From: NANOG on behalf of Fletcher Kittredge Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 10:29 PM To: Clinton Work Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut There is a third route from Halifax -> New Brunswi

Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut

2017-08-24 Thread Christopher Morrell
Let’s not forget that all POTS and cell service was offline during the outage - even for local and 911 service. There is some high level of dependence on some equipment in Quebec and/or westward which should not be there. A double fault like that should not knock out all local service for 4 out o

Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut

2017-08-24 Thread Paul Stewart
Yeah good point Chris …. Got thinking about this too much from an IP perspective :) > On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:29 PM, Christopher Morrell > wrote: > > Let’s not forget that all POTS and cell service was offline during the outage > - even for local and 911 service. > > There is some high leve

Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut

2017-08-24 Thread Fletcher Kittredge
There is a third route from Halifax -> New Brunswick -> Portland, ME -> [Albany, Boston] On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Clinton Work wrote: > I can't speak for the Bell Aliant network, but I'm only aware of two > diverse fiber routes out of Halifax, Nova Scotia. Halifax -> New > Brunswick ->

Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut

2017-08-18 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: > > > On Aug 15, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Rod Beck > wrote: > > > > Did we ever get any resolution on why this was such a big outage? > Appears there were two fiber cuts. Were the fibers damaged in the same > conduit? Is this a collapsed ring scenario

Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut

2017-08-18 Thread Doug Barton
Does this sound like a dry run to anyone else? Or did I forget to take my anti-paranoia pills today? On 08/15/2017 06:05 PM, David Charlebois wrote: Just read this on http://www.ctvnews.ca/business/bell-aliant-says- double-cable-cut-that-led-to-cell-outages-was-perfect-storm-1.3547018 "Bell s

Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut

2017-08-16 Thread Paul Stewart
It wasn’t an issue getting transatlantic - it was an issue within a relatively small region in Eastern Canada talking to the rest of the world for certain carriers. There were several smaller carriers/providers not affected - just happens the local incumbent telco and one of their larger compet

Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut

2017-08-16 Thread Paul Stewart
Never really heard a lot about it …. We never lost connectivity to Halifax from Montreal via Hibernia - interesting topic though as we have a backup path that I’m looking to replace :) Paul > On Aug 15, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Rod Beck wrote: > > Did we ever get any resolution on why this was suc

Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut

2017-08-15 Thread David Charlebois
; From: NANOG on behalf of Clinton Work < > clin...@scripty.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:07 PM > > To: nanog@nanog.org > > Subject: Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut > > > > I can't speak for the Bell Aliant network, but I'm only a

Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut

2017-08-15 Thread JASON BOTHE
al cable and Hibernia's underwater cable from Halifax to their > Boston landing station. > > > > From: NANOG on behalf of Clinton Work > > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:07 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Last Week

Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut

2017-08-15 Thread Rod Beck
nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut I can't speak for the Bell Aliant network, but I'm only aware of two diverse fiber routes out of Halifax, Nova Scotia. Halifax -> New Brunswick -> Quebec City is the Canadian route and Halifax -> Boston is the diverse

Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut

2017-08-15 Thread Clinton Work
I can't speak for the Bell Aliant network, but I'm only aware of two diverse fiber routes out of Halifax, Nova Scotia. Halifax -> New Brunswick -> Quebec City is the Canadian route and Halifax -> Boston is the diverse route. On Tue, Aug 15, 2017, at 01:52 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: > Perhaps some

Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut

2017-08-15 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Aug 15, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Rod Beck wrote: > > Did we ever get any resolution on why this was such a big outage? Appears > there were two fiber cuts. Were the fibers damaged in the same conduit? Is > this a collapsed ring scenario? > > > http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrado

Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut

2017-08-15 Thread Rod Beck
In other words, bad luck. Probability dictates if enough time transpires, every bad thing will happen. 😝 From: NANOG on behalf of Clinton Work Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 8:59 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cu

Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut

2017-08-15 Thread Clinton Work
My understanding is that the Bell Aliant outage was a double fault situation. Bell Aliant had a fiber cut on one of their fiber routes early in the morning and then they had a fault on the diverse fiber route before the first trouble could be repaired. On Tue, Aug 15, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Rod Be

Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut

2017-08-15 Thread Rod Beck
Did we ever get any resolution on why this was such a big outage? Appears there were two fiber cuts. Were the fibers damaged in the same conduit? Is this a collapsed ring scenario? http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/concerns-about-backup-bell-outage-1.4239064 Roderick Beck D