Re: LTE modem where I can control the MTU

2020-05-01 Thread Saku Ytti
On Fri, 1 May 2020 at 19:00, Dovid Bender wrote: > I currently have an airlink that is connected directly to a raritan console > server. The public IP sits on the raritan. The airlink does not seem to have > any MTU options. Ideally I would change the MTU on the interface of the LTE

Re: LTE modem where I can control the MTU

2020-05-01 Thread J. Hellenthal via NANOG
TU on the >interface of the LTE modem wich would force the raritan to send all data < >1400 bytes per packet. I never thought about the reverse so we may need >something that would tinker with the MSS as well. > Not too familiar with airlink but it perhaps doesn't happen to h

Re: LTE modem where I can control the MTU

2020-05-01 Thread Dovid Bender
I currently have an airlink that is connected directly to a raritan console server. The public IP sits on the raritan. The airlink does not seem to have any MTU options. Ideally I would change the MTU on the interface of the LTE modem wich would force the raritan to send all data < 1400 bytes

RE: LTE modem where I can control the MTU

2020-05-01 Thread Phil Lavin
complex than just changing LTE MTU. The time when MTU matters in this situation (larger packets getting lost) is when DF bit is set on the packet - that's the case for all TCP data packets and it often crops up during TLS negotiations. Is that what you're seeing? Consider the follo

Re: LTE modem where I can control the MTU

2020-05-01 Thread Saku Ytti
Hey, > We have VZ wireless in the data center as a backup to our core > infrastructure. We have an issue where if packets have a large MTU they seem > to die. Does anyone know of a good 4G modem where I can set the MTU on the > cellular connection? Cisco ISR with NIM-4G-LTE-VZ -- ++ytti

Re: LTE modem where I can control the MTU

2020-05-01 Thread Warren Kumari
On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 10:10 AM Dovid Bender wrote: > > Hi, > > We have VZ wireless in the data center as a backup to our core > infrastructure. We have an issue where if packets have a large MTU they seem > to die. Does anyone know of a good 4G modem where I can set the MTU on the > cellular c

LTE modem where I can control the MTU

2020-05-01 Thread Dovid Bender
Hi, We have VZ wireless in the data center as a backup to our core infrastructure. We have an issue where if packets have a large MTU they seem to die. Does anyone know of a good 4G modem where I can set the MTU on the cellular connection? TIA. Dovid

Re: Backup over 4G/LTE

2020-01-30 Thread Shawn Ritchie
Yes, the 510 has LTE options for both North American and Asian frequencies (separate boxes). They can hold 2 SIMs but only one can be active at a time. -- Shawn On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, at 8:44 PM, Colton Conor wrote: > Does Velcloud make an actual LTE box? > > On Wed, Jan 29, 202

Re: Backup over 4G/LTE

2020-01-30 Thread Brian Knight
ly we have been deploying Proxicast PocketPort units. These have an RJ45 jack at one end, USB port on the other, with no built-in cell antenna. So you'll need a USB 4G/LTE dongle in addition. Those PocketPorts are a bit more limited in terms of config, but they work for our use case and are less ex

RE: Backup over 4G/LTE

2020-01-30 Thread Hiers, David
VeloCloud’s 510-LTE is one option. From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Colton Conor Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 6:44 PM To: K. Scott Helms Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Backup over 4G/LTE Does Velcloud make an actual LTE box? On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 6:44 AM K

Re: Backup over 4G/LTE

2020-01-29 Thread Colton Conor
Does Velcloud make an actual LTE box? On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 6:44 AM K. Scott Helms wrote: > There are lots of options to solve that problem. > > Peplink, 128T, Viptela (Cisco), Velocloud (VMWare), etc. > > Scott Helms > > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 6:31 PM K MEKKA

RE: Backup over 4G/LTE

2020-01-29 Thread Christopher Trudeau
I’ll wait for Gen2 with a SIM slot. -Chris From: NANOG On Behalf Of Ben Cannon Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:18 PM To: Brandon Svec Cc: NANOG Operators' Group Subject: Re: Backup over 4G/LTE New player in this space is Ubiquiti: https://unifi-lte.ui.com - more suited for bran

Re: Backup over 4G/LTE

2020-01-29 Thread Shawn Ritchie
I do this with Accelerated devices tied to Juniper SRXes as well as Velocloud VCEs depending on the customer's other needs. Increasingly common application. -- Shawn On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, at 8:08 AM, Alain Hebert wrote: > Juniper SRX and any reliable consumer LTE router =D. > &g

Re: Backup over 4G/LTE

2020-01-29 Thread Alain Hebert
    Juniper SRX and any reliable consumer LTE router =D. - Alain Hebertaheb...@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.netFax: 514-990-9443 On 2020-01-28 18:30, K

Re: Backup over 4G/LTE

2020-01-29 Thread K. Scott Helms
for > business internet access? In other words when the internet provided through > the cable modem fails the 4G/LTE takes over automatically to provide > internet access to the client. > > > > Thank you > > > > KARIM M. > > >

Re: Backup over 4G/LTE

2020-01-28 Thread Colton Conor
t provided through > the cable modem fails the 4G/LTE takes over automatically to provide > internet access to the client. > > > > Thank you > > > > KARIM M. > > >

Re: Backup over 4G/LTE

2020-01-28 Thread Ben Cannon
formation that provides redundancy for > business internet access? In other words when the internet provided through > the cable modem fails the 4G/LTE takes over automatically to provide internet > access to the client. > > > > Thank you > > > > KARIM M. > > >

Re: Backup over 4G/LTE

2020-01-28 Thread Brandon Svec
; Can anyone help with any device information that provides redundancy for > business internet access? In other words when the internet provided through > the cable modem fails the 4G/LTE takes over automatically to provide > internet access to the client. > > > > Thank you > > > > KARIM M. > > >

Re: Backup over 4G/LTE

2020-01-28 Thread Mike Lyon
other words when the internet provided through > the cable modem fails the 4G/LTE takes over automatically to provide internet > access to the client. > > Thank you > > KARIM M. >

Backup over 4G/LTE

2020-01-28 Thread K MEKKAOUI
Dear NANOG Community, Can anyone help with any device information that provides redundancy for business internet access? In other words when the internet provided through the cable modem fails the 4G/LTE takes over automatically to provide internet access to the client. Thank you KARIM

Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-08-02 Thread Tom Hill
On 01/08/2019 15:14, Nick Olsen wrote: > It roams on 3UK. And works fine. Albeit the LTE deployment isn't near as > wide there as it is in the US. And you end up on HSDPA pretty frequently. To the this point, I've a Three contract here (UK). It has slightly been frustrating rece

Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-08-02 Thread James Bensley
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 at 02:36, Ryan Gelobter wrote: > > Anyone have recommendations for providers who I can use for LTE on Opengear > console servers in the UK, Netherlands, and Singapore? 1 provider for all 3 > countries would be great but I'll take what I can get. Oddl

Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-08-01 Thread Andy Sparrow
According to https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/7/12/12159210/google-project-fi-three-network-international-roaming-speed , Project/Google Fi added 3/Hutchinson as a native carrier in the UK in the same way that Sprint/T-Mob/US Cellular networks provide service in the US. One of Hutch's

RE: Estimated LTE Data Utilization in Failover Scenario

2019-08-01 Thread Paul Amaral via NANOG
sure the customer knows that this is a temporary solution, the speed/latency will not be as good as the primary connection. If the customer understands this, then 4G LTE is a great solution especially for a backup. It's also great for getting branches up ASAP while waiting for fiber etc. I ha

Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-08-01 Thread Fearghas Mckay
Tom > On 1 Aug 2019, at 03:55, Tom Hill wrote: > > Are you suggesting Fi because of: > > "When outside the United States, cellular phone calls cost $0.20 per > minute, data costs the same $10 per gigabyte (i.e. there are no extra > data charges outside of the US), and texting is free." > > Erg

Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-08-01 Thread Nick Olsen
I've got a line on my Fi account that almost exclusively roams in the UK. Only been on-net in the US a few times and they've never complained about excessive roaming. It roams on 3UK. And works fine. Albeit the LTE deployment isn't near as wide there as it is in the US. And you

RE: Estimated LTE Data Utilization in Failover Scenario

2019-08-01 Thread Kenny Taylor
to be more deprioritization than shaping. We tried VZ in a couple of rural areas and quickly discovered that there wasn't enough bandwidth to those particular towers. We could pull 20 mbit down regularly around 6:00 am, then by lunch time we'd get less than 1 mbt down. We deployed an ISR

Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-08-01 Thread Matt Corallo
When using a data-only Fi SIM (which are free if you have an account, just pay the bandwidth), they always just act as a T-Mobile US MVNO and route back through the US. Still, latency aside, I've found it incredibly reliable (plus in many countries you can pick from multiple networks). If you h

Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-08-01 Thread Tom Hill
On 01/08/2019 03:19, Mehmet Akcin wrote: > Google Fi Are you suggesting Fi because of: "When outside the United States, cellular phone calls cost $0.20 per minute, data costs the same $10 per gigabyte (i.e. there are no extra data charges outside of the US), and texting is free." Ergo, relative

Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-07-31 Thread Louis Kowolowski
been on the hunt for something we can leverage globally > that support LTE. > > J~ > > On Jul 31, 2019, at 21:19, Mehmet Akcin <mailto:meh...@akcin.net>> wrote: > >> Google Fi >> >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 18:35 Ryan Gelobter > <mailt

Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-07-31 Thread JASON BOTHE via NANOG
Are the Opengear boxes good gear? We currently have some boxes with a high failure rate and I’ve been on the hunt for something we can leverage globally that support LTE. J~ > On Jul 31, 2019, at 21:19, Mehmet Akcin wrote: > > Google Fi > >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 1

Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-07-31 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Google Fi On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 18:35 Ryan Gelobter wrote: > Anyone have recommendations for providers who I can use for LTE on > Opengear console servers in the UK, Netherlands, and Singapore? 1 provider > for all 3 countries would be great but I'll take what I can get. Oddly

UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-07-31 Thread Ryan Gelobter
Anyone have recommendations for providers who I can use for LTE on Opengear console servers in the UK, Netherlands, and Singapore? 1 provider for all 3 countries would be great but I'll take what I can get. Oddly when talking to Opengear they don't really have any great advice. We use V

Re: Estimated LTE Data Utilization in Failover Scenario

2019-07-31 Thread Sabri Berisha
- On Jul 31, 2019, at 9:54 AM, nanog nanog@nanog.org wrote: Hi, > From the testing I have done with VZ 4G > I get 10mbs down and 2/3 up with a -65 RSSI. It’s still better to have LTE > for a backup then not to have it. You will have to keep in mind that if there is a generic servi

RE: Estimated LTE Data Utilization in Failover Scenario

2019-07-31 Thread Paul Amaral via NANOG
In my experience with LTE is that it’s never enough. We have bank branches with 20Mbs metro lines and on rare occasion when that circuit drops 4G LTE will provide you with 10mbs at best also note that latency is much higher which can mess with ipsec/VOIP etc. I don’t think you can pick how much

Re: Estimated LTE Data Utilization in Failover Scenario

2019-07-31 Thread Shawn Ritchie
ies if I breach etiquette. >> >> Does anyone have any first-hand data on how much data a small-medium >> business (SMB) can expect to consume in a failover scenario over a 4G/LTE >> connection? Retail, under 50 head count, using PoS, maybe cloud accounting >> softwa

Re: Estimated LTE Data Utilization in Failover Scenario

2019-07-31 Thread Blake Hudson
medium business (SMB) can expect to consume in a failover scenario over a 4G/LTE connection?  Retail, under 50 head count, using PoS, maybe cloud accounting software, general internet activity, 8 hour time period.  Wonder if anyone is using a Cradlepoint or SD-WAN solution that could pull

Re: Estimated LTE Data Utilization in Failover Scenario

2019-07-31 Thread Matt Harris
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 9:21 AM Shaun Dombrosky wrote: > Good Morning, > > > > First time NANOG poster, apologies if I breach etiquette. > > > > Does anyone have any first-hand data on how much data a small-medium > business (SMB) can expect to consume in a f

Re: Estimated LTE Data Utilization in Failover Scenario

2019-07-31 Thread Matt Harris
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 9:21 AM Shaun Dombrosky wrote: > Good Morning, > > > > First time NANOG poster, apologies if I breach etiquette. > > > > Does anyone have any first-hand data on how much data a small-medium > business (SMB) can expect to consume in a f

Estimated LTE Data Utilization in Failover Scenario

2019-07-31 Thread Shaun Dombrosky
Good Morning, First time NANOG poster, apologies if I breach etiquette. Does anyone have any first-hand data on how much data a small-medium business (SMB) can expect to consume in a failover scenario over a 4G/LTE connection? Retail, under 50 head count, using PoS, maybe cloud accounting

uCPE or SD-WAN Devices with LTE Support

2018-09-08 Thread Colton Conor
. Does anyone have recommendations for a UCPE or SD-WAN device that: cost about what a Cradlepoint cost ($500 to $750) have built in LTE (or supports a M.2 LTE card) has at least one Ethernet port has remote management, and can load your own application onto? We could probably build out own with a

Ongoing AT&T Wireless (LTE) IPv6 Reachability Issues

2016-02-01 Thread Andrew Kirch
x27;t support reaching web sites over IP". Since I'm paying for the entire Internet, and not half of it, and enduser support is too ignorant to understand the problem, I'm wondering if someone here can tell me when AT&T Wireless intends to fix their LTE network since ARIN is out

Re: Verizon Wireless LTE/4G and SIP Header Manipulation

2015-09-22 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Sep 22, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Christopher Morrow > wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Mark Stevens wrote: >> The TAG unique identifier is being changed and this only happens through VZ >> LTE networks, not wired networks or even other cellular data networks &

Re: Verizon Wireless LTE/4G and SIP Header Manipulation

2015-09-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Mark Stevens wrote: > The TAG unique identifier is being changed and this only happens through VZ > LTE networks, not wired networks or even other cellular data networks > (Sprint, ATT, T-Mobile) > Their phones are IPV6 so the packets are getting conve

Re: Verizon Wireless LTE/4G and SIP Header Manipulation

2015-09-22 Thread Mark Stevens
The TAG unique identifier is being changed and this only happens through VZ LTE networks, not wired networks or even other cellular data networks (Sprint, ATT, T-Mobile) Their phones are IPV6 so the packets are getting converted to IPV4 so it is either happening there or there is a global ALG

Re: Verizon Wireless LTE/4G and SIP Header Manipulation

2015-09-22 Thread William McCall
t; morrowc.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Christopher Morrow > wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Mark Stevens > wrote: > >> Hi All, > >> > >> Has anyone seen that something (most likely an alg) on Verizon's LTE/

Re: Verizon Wireless LTE/4G and SIP Header Manipulation

2015-09-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Mark Stevens wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Has anyone seen that something (most likely an alg) on Verizon's LTE/4G >> network is rewriting SIP headers,in particular From Tag

Re: Verizon Wireless LTE/4G and SIP Header Manipulation

2015-09-22 Thread Dovid Bender
Message-- From: Mark Stevens Sender: NANOG To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Verizon Wireless LTE/4G and SIP Header Manipulation Sent: Sep 22, 2015 12:03 Hi All, Has anyone seen that something (most likely an alg) on Verizon's LTE/4G network is rewriting SIP headers,in particular Fro

RE: Verizon Wireless LTE/4G and SIP Header Manipulation

2015-09-22 Thread Naslund, Steve
Send all of your signaling over TLS and they won't be able to see or modify it. Steven Naslund Chicago IL -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mark Stevens Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 11:03 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Verizon Wireles

Re: Verizon Wireless LTE/4G and SIP Header Manipulation

2015-09-22 Thread Mark Stevens
likely an alg) on Verizon's LTE/4G network is rewriting SIP headers,in particular From Tag identifiers? We cannot make a SIP call from our cellphones (using cellular data) beyond 30 seconds because the TAGs are rewritten and the destination Asterisk server drops the call because of this. sounds

Re: Verizon Wireless LTE/4G and SIP Header Manipulation

2015-09-22 Thread joel jaeggli
On 9/22/15 9:03 AM, Mark Stevens wrote: > Hi All, > > Has anyone seen that something (most likely an alg) on Verizon's LTE/4G > network is rewriting SIP headers,in particular From Tag identifiers? We > cannot make a SIP call from our cellphones (using cellular data) beyond

Re: Verizon Wireless LTE/4G and SIP Header Manipulation

2015-09-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Mark Stevens wrote: > Hi All, > > Has anyone seen that something (most likely an alg) on Verizon's LTE/4G > network is rewriting SIP headers,in particular From Tag identifiers? We > cannot make a SIP call from our cellphones (using cell

Verizon Wireless LTE/4G and SIP Header Manipulation

2015-09-22 Thread Mark Stevens
Hi All, Has anyone seen that something (most likely an alg) on Verizon's LTE/4G network is rewriting SIP headers,in particular From Tag identifiers? We cannot make a SIP call from our cellphones (using cellular data) beyond 30 seconds because the TAGs are rewritten and the destin

Re: LTE

2015-08-26 Thread Tomas Lynch
; Bryan >> >> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 4:33 PM Nathan Anderson wrote: >> >> > Is there anybody here who is fluent in LTE/3GPP networks and the >> standards >> > that govern them? I'm not sure where else to look. I have a very >> specific >

Re: LTE

2015-08-26 Thread Tomas Lynch
Ericsson SSR or SE. On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Bryan Ignatow wrote: > Nathan, > > I know someone. Contact me off list and I will get you and he connected. > > Bryan > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 4:33 PM Nathan Anderson wrote: > > > Is there anybody here who

Re: LTE

2015-08-25 Thread Bryan Ignatow
Nathan, I know someone. Contact me off list and I will get you and he connected. Bryan On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 4:33 PM Nathan Anderson wrote: > Is there anybody here who is fluent in LTE/3GPP networks and the standards > that govern them? I'm not sure where else to look. I

LTE

2015-08-25 Thread Nathan Anderson
Is there anybody here who is fluent in LTE/3GPP networks and the standards that govern them? I'm not sure where else to look. I have a very specific question about UEs, UICCs, and the security negotiation (integrity & ciphers) that occurs during attachment both on the AS and NAS la

Att mobility LTE contact

2013-10-07 Thread Jared Mauch
Anyone from mobility around? You have turned on some new towers around me with the wrong time zone. (Lansing, Chelsea, dexter all in Michigan). Only seems to be wrong on the LTE and not the 3G/4G side. Thanks! Jared Mauch

Re: Verizon wireless (cdma/LTE) compatible ethernet connectable OOB access device.

2012-11-12 Thread Joe Hamelin
I've used digi.com before, does the job. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474

RE: Verizon wireless (cdma/LTE) compatible ethernet connectable OOB access device.

2012-11-12 Thread Scott Berkman
We have one site using this type of OpeGear setup, but we use an LTE "MiFi" with wireless to the OpenGear's "WAN", but also use a USB port on the open gear to keep the MiFi powered. -Original Message- From: Asaf Rapoport [mailto:arapop...@telepacific.com] Sen

Re: Verizon wireless (cdma/LTE) compatible ethernet connectable OOB access device.

2012-11-07 Thread Asaf Rapoport
you >can do things like vpn gateway, proxying, port mapping, >etc like you'd find in a typical consumer type soho >router, or you can lock it all down for whatever you >don't need. > >My only complaint is no LTE version last I checked, >which is fine for serial port

RE: Verizon wireless (cdma/LTE) compatible ethernet connectable OOB access device.

2012-11-07 Thread David Hubbard
here's a web-based serial interface too so they're really great for routers. On the ethernet/web side you can do things like vpn gateway, proxying, port mapping, etc like you'd find in a typical consumer type soho router, or you can lock it all down for whatever you don't need

Verizon wireless (cdma/LTE) compatible ethernet connectable OOB access device.

2012-11-07 Thread Eric J Esslinger
We have Verizon Wireless as our provider of choice for our company, and I've convinced those who are they that I need a completely OOB method for getting back in the NOC, as we don't have a full time NOC staff and internet coverage can be spotty around here in general, as we're a small town. Th

Re: Another LTE network turns up as IPv4-only

2012-10-11 Thread Joakim Aronius
* Tore Anderson (tore.ander...@redpill-linpro.com) wrote: > * Mikael Abrahamsson > > >> In my experience, long-lived sessions are unreliable when you're on the > >> move anyway. Go into an elevator? Sessions drop. Subway heads into a > >> tunnel? Sessions drop. > > > > I guess you and me have rad

Re: Another LTE network turns up as IPv4-only

2012-10-11 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
com/facebook-is-adding-over-25000-mobile-users-an-hour-2012-10 > > dream big > > /bill > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 08:31:44AM +0200, Tore Anderson wrote: >> * Cameron Byrne >> >> > FYI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r27324698-LTE-access-early- >>

Re: Another LTE network turns up as IPv4-only

2012-10-11 Thread Tore Anderson
phone > networks and how well they work. Maybe. Welcome to Oslo. :-) >> I think this is a really poor excuse for not supporting IPv6 and >> IPv4v6 in any case. Unless I'm gravely misinformed on how 3GPP mobile >> networks work, there is absolutely no reason why you cannot

Re: Another LTE network turns up as IPv4-only

2012-10-11 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
ss you and me have radically different experience of mobile phone networks and how well they work. I think this is a really poor excuse for not supporting IPv6 and IPv4v6 in any case. Unless I'm gravely misinformed on how 3GPP mobile networks work, there is absolutely no reason why

Re: Another LTE network turns up as IPv4-only

2012-10-11 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012, Bryan Tong wrote: Why do you believe that address changes in handover? It's an integral part of 3GPP standard that your existing bearer is used for handover, so your address shouldn't change. If it changes then it means the handover didn't work as designed, probably due to s

Re: Another LTE network turns up as IPv4-only

2012-10-11 Thread Tore Anderson
ing IPv6 and IPv4v6 in any case. Unless I'm gravely misinformed on how 3GPP mobile networks work, there is absolutely no reason why you cannot on LTE simultaneously support IPv4, IPv6, and IPv4v6. That the LTE network additionally supports IPv6/IPv4v6 does not *in any way* prevent you from s

Re: Another LTE network turns up as IPv4-only

2012-10-11 Thread Bryan Tong
> Why do you believe that address changes in handover? It's an integral part > of 3GPP standard that your existing bearer is used for handover, so your > address shouldn't change. If it changes then it means the handover didn't > work as designed, probably due to some radio related problem. If the

Re: Another LTE network turns up as IPv4-only

2012-10-11 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012, Matthew Kaufman wrote: If your SSH sessions could survive a change in address assignment (which often happens in a handover), they could survive a change in address family assignment as well. Why would there be an address change in a handover? That is definitely not expe

Re: Another LTE network turns up as IPv4-only

2012-10-11 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On 10/11/2012 8:44 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2012, Tore Anderson wrote: That some features are available only on the most advanced access technology is perfectly reasonable and to be expected, IMHO. If not, what's the point of upgrading at all? Uh, whut? I expect my ssh se

Re: Another LTE network turns up as IPv4-only

2012-10-11 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012, Tore Anderson wrote: That some features are available only on the most advanced access technology is perfectly reasonable and to be expected, IMHO. If not, what's the point of upgrading at all? Uh, whut? I expect my ssh sessions to survive a 4G->3G handover, and if they

Re: Another LTE network turns up as IPv4-only

2012-10-11 Thread Tore Anderson
* Mikael Abrahamsson > Would you want to get IPv6 when you're in the LTE network but lose it > when you were handed over to 2G/3G. Absolutely. That some features are available only on the most advanced access technology is perfectly reasonable and to be expected, IMHO. If not, what&

Re: Another LTE network turns up as IPv4-only

2012-10-10 Thread bmanning
https://intelligence.businessinsider.com/facebook-is-adding-over-25000-mobile-users-an-hour-2012-10 dream big /bill On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 08:31:44AM +0200, Tore Anderson wrote: > * Cameron Byrne > > > FYI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r27324698-LTE-access-early- > >

Re: Another LTE network turns up as IPv4-only

2012-10-10 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
perfectly natural and sensible thing for them to do, it seems. The problem I have seen is not to get IPv6/dual stack in LTE (this worked from day one), it's to get dual stack working in all the cases with bearer establishment and handover between 2G/3G and 4G. 2G/3G is "fully integrated&

Re: Another LTE network turns up as IPv4-only

2012-10-10 Thread Tore Anderson
* Cameron Byrne > FYI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r27324698-LTE-access-early- > > So much for next generation technology ... Yesterday, Telenor launched LTE. So. With a green-field deployment, in their home market (supposed to be the first of their tree-digit million subscribers w

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-27 Thread Ryan Rawdon
On Sep 27, 2012, at 11:00 AM, chris wrote: > I tested today just for giggles, test-ipv6.com shows I have working ipv4 > and ipv6 10/10 on both tests. Interestingly enough I was only seeing 3G on > the device at the time. > > So I guess its not just on LTE or is it LTE devices ? &

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-27 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/27/12 8:52 AM, Jason Fesler wrote: >> Safari on the iPad seems to be preferring A over if a hostname has >> both, though. I can browse to a bracketed IPv6 address so it is working. > > I think perhaps it is time to update test-ipv6.com a bit, and have it > penalize the first number when

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-27 Thread chris
I tested today just for giggles, test-ipv6.com shows I have working ipv4 and ipv6 10/10 on both tests. Interestingly enough I was only seeing 3G on the device at the time. So I guess its not just on LTE or is it LTE devices ? I'm running galaxy nexus on vz with stock jelly bean from the r

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-27 Thread Jason Fesler
Safari on the iPad seems to be preferring A over if a hostname has both, though. I can browse to a bracketed IPv6 address so it is working. I think perhaps it is time to update test-ipv6.com a bit, and have it penalize the first number when IPv4 is used in preference. IPv4 CGN will make m

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-21 Thread Dan Drown
Quoting Randy Carpenter : Safari is definitely preferring IPv4. In a happier note, if you tether a device via hotspot on an IOS6 iPad, the clients get native IPv6. Strangely, they get addresses out of the same /64 as the iPad's LTE interface. Anyone know how that is working? I would

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-21 Thread Seth Mattinen
So I'm back at the office this morning and the iPad is *not* getting an IPv6 address but is showing LTE service. It did do IPv6 over LTE at home so it's not a device problem. So I suppose the closest tower to my office is not IPv6 enabled. Is this an expected behavior in some areas or

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-21 Thread Cameron Byrne
Mobile USA allows mobile terminated data on IPv6 http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/01/29/t-mobile-usa-testing-ipv6-on-select-devices-here-is-what-it-all-means-and-yes-no-more-nat/ CB > I actually tried to set up a VPN on a LTE data card using the ipv6 address > since the IPV4 one is behind ca

RE: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-21 Thread Jamie Bowden
> Justin M. Streiner > On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, TJ wrote: > > > My understanding, and experience (albeit with Android), is that all > VZW LTE > > is IPv6-capable. > > > > I'd love to hear if Apple or VZW is at fault here, or if something > weird is >

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-20 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012, Tore Anderson wrote: I wonder if there will be similar magic provided for UMTS/LTE networks.. I doubt it. The path there should be to upgrade GSM/UMTS network to release 9 and support v4v6 pdp context and then you don't need any magic at all (as far as I can

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-20 Thread Tore Anderson
* PC > One more tip: IPv6 will work over the legacy 3g network. Don't ask me > much about it, but it "tunnels" it using eHRPD to the same IP/IPv6 headend > to enable seamless EVDO/LTE handover. Interesting. Does this happens only if you start out in LTE coverage and

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-20 Thread PC
"Please don't hack or ddos it :-) " Unfortunately, while you do get an ipv6 address, mobile terminated data doesn't work, so you don't have to worry about this. It is firewalled by Verizon. I actually tried to set up a VPN on a LTE data card using the ipv6 address sin

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-20 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Randy Carpenter wrote: In a happier note, if you tether a device via hotspot on an IOS6 iPad, the clients get native IPv6. Strangely, they get addresses out of the same /64 as the iPad's LTE interface. Anyone know how that is working? I would have thought they woul

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-20 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, TJ wrote: My understanding, and experience (albeit with Android), is that all VZW LTE is IPv6-capable. I'd love to hear if Apple or VZW is at fault here, or if something weird is happening ... I don't know about Apple devices on VZW, but my Android phone defin

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-20 Thread Randy Carpenter
Safari is definitely preferring IPv4. In a happier note, if you tether a device via hotspot on an IOS6 iPad, the clients get native IPv6. Strangely, they get addresses out of the same /64 as the iPad's LTE interface. Anyone know how that is working? I would have thought they would use p

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-20 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/20/12 6:47 PM, TJ wrote: > Did Apple use their version of Happy Eyeballs on the iPads? > ISTR they cache certain timeouts, so if IPv6 was failing before it may take > awhile for it to become preferred again. > It seems you may be correct. ~Seth

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-20 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/20/12 6:47 PM, TJ wrote: > Did Apple use their version of Happy Eyeballs on the iPads? > ISTR they cache certain timeouts, so if IPv6 was failing before it may take > awhile for it to become preferred again. > Well, I can try creating a new DNS record that never existed before and see. ~Se

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-20 Thread TJ
t; > Huh, so I come home and now I'm getting IPv6 from Verizon LTE. But I > > definitely wasn't at the office. I verified with an app called "IT > > Tools" that shows the interfaces and routing table, plus it does > > traceroute/ping. Maybe the n

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-20 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/20/12 6:33 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > > Huh, so I come home and now I'm getting IPv6 from Verizon LTE. But I > definitely wasn't at the office. I verified with an app called "IT > Tools" that shows the interfaces and routing table, plus it does > traceroute

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-20 Thread Seth Mattinen
Huh, so I come home and now I'm getting IPv6 from Verizon LTE. But I definitely wasn't at the office. I verified with an app called "IT Tools" that shows the interfaces and routing table, plus it does traceroute/ping. Maybe the nearest tower over there doesn't support

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-20 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/20/12 5:39 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote: > > Your problem is likely with Apple, they have not yet supported ipv6 on > the cellular interface afaik. > Well, that's true under iOS 5, but iOS 6 released yesterday (and assuming you have a third gen iPad with LTE) was supposed to

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-20 Thread Jared Mauch
One other thing... When on non-v6 wifi, it appears to still be using LTE for v6... (At least according to test-ipv6.com) This could result in some unexpected usage patterns.. - Jared On Sep 20, 2012, at 8:49 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote: > Cool! > > That is from an ipad on vzw LTE? Ios6? >

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-20 Thread chris
wrote: > > > > > > Oh... It works... > > > > > > > > > Your IPv4 address on the public Internet appears to be 70.194.10.15 > > > > > > Your IPv6 address on the public Internet appears to be > 2600:1007:b010:a057:d91a:7d40:9871:f1a3 > >

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-20 Thread Jared Mauch
s on the public Internet appears to be > > 2600:1007:b010:a057:d91a:7d40:9871:f1a3 > > > > 10/11 tests run > > > > Cool! > > That is from an ipad on vzw LTE? Ios6? > Yes... Please don't hack or ddos it :-) I'm guessing there will be a lot of n

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