Re: Google peering pains in Dallas

2020-04-30 Thread Niels Bakker
* ja...@puck.nether.net (Jared Mauch) [Thu 30 Apr 2020, 20:10 CEST]: (Waits for others to crawl out of the woodwork who were more involved in this :-) Half duplex 10baseT ports, man. The collision LEDs never calmed down. -- Niels.

Re: Google peering pains in Dallas

2020-04-30 Thread Matthew Petach
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 11:43 AM Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:39 PM Aaron C. de Bruyn > wrote: > > > > Why isn't there a well-known anycast ping address similar to > CloudFlare/Google/Level 3 DNS, or sorta like the NTP project? > > Get someone to carve out some well-know

Re: Google peering pains in Dallas

2020-04-30 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/30/20 11:38 AM, Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG wrote: Why isn't there a well-known anycast ping address similar to CloudFlare/Google/Level 3 DNS, or sorta like the NTP project? Get someone to carve out some well-known IP and allow every ISP on the planet to add that IP to a router or BSD box s

Re: Google peering pains in Dallas

2020-04-30 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Apr 30, 2020, at 2:41 PM, Christopher Morrow > wrote: > > It sounds like, to me anyway, you'd like to copy/paste/sed the AS112 > project's goals, no? I just use this page: http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/ - jared

Re: Google peering pains in Dallas

2020-04-30 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:39 PM Aaron C. de Bruyn wrote: > > Why isn't there a well-known anycast ping address similar to > CloudFlare/Google/Level 3 DNS, or sorta like the NTP project? > Get someone to carve out some well-known IP and allow every ISP on the planet > to add that IP to a router o

Re: Google peering pains in Dallas

2020-04-30 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG
Why isn't there a well-known anycast ping address similar to CloudFlare/Google/Level 3 DNS, or sorta like the NTP project? Get someone to carve out some well-known IP and allow every ISP on the planet to add that IP to a router or BSD box somewhere on their network? Allow product manufacturers to t

Re: Google peering pains in Dallas

2020-04-30 Thread Nick Hilliard
Jared Mauch wrote on 30/04/2020 19:09: This is why the majority of traffic volume for interconnection has generally been over private peering links (paid, SFI, otherwise). ixps have always been a mid-market phenomenon. They don't deal with the high volume data flows because it never made financ

Re: Google peering pains in Dallas

2020-04-30 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Apr 29, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Kaiser, Erich wrote: > > So it has been 3 weeks of major ICMP packet loss to any google service over > the Dallas Equinix IX, it is not affecting performance of service but is > affecting us with customer complaints and service calls due to some software > usi

Re: Google peering pains in Dallas

2020-04-30 Thread Saku Ytti
On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 at 20:11, William Allen Simpson wrote: > Tried to get the FTC interested, no joy. Congress made noises > about passing a law requiring software updates (especially for > security issues), but still nothing on that either. This is not practical or reasonable. Companies may no

Re: Google peering pains in Dallas

2020-04-30 Thread William Allen Simpson
On 4/29/20 8:53 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: I suppose it's time for a more public: "Hey, when you want to test a service, please take the time to test that service on it's service port/protocol" Testing; "Is the internet up?" by pinging a DNS server, is ... not great ;( I get that telling '

Re: Google peering pains in Dallas

2020-04-29 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:00 PM Kaiser, Erich wrote: > > So it has been 3 weeks of major ICMP packet loss to any google service over > the Dallas Equinix IX, it is not affecting performance of service but is > affecting us with customer complaints and service calls due to some software > using

Google peering pains in Dallas

2020-04-29 Thread Kaiser, Erich
So it has been 3 weeks of major ICMP packet loss to any google service over the Dallas Equinix IX, it is not affecting performance of service but is affecting us with customer complaints and service calls due to some software using it for monitoring purposes people using it for benchmark testing.