Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-04-01 Thread bmanning
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:44:28AM -0400, Joe Abley wrote: > > On 1 Apr 2009, at 11:19, TJ wrote: > > >You do not (or, atleast I do not :)) have the option of connecting > >to Google "over" MPLS, Ethernet, etc. > > r1.owls#show arp | inc 198.32.245.6 > Internet 198.32.245.62 001

RE: Google Over IPV6

2009-04-01 Thread TJ
ike to get them. (/southpark) >-Original Message- >From: Joe Abley [mailto:jab...@hopcount.ca] >Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:44 AM >To: TJ >Cc: nanog@nanog.org >Subject: Re: Google Over IPV6 > > >On 1 Apr 2009, at 11:19, TJ wrote: > >> You do not (o

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-04-01 Thread Joe Abley
On 1 Apr 2009, at 11:19, TJ wrote: You do not (or, atleast I do not :)) have the option of connecting to Google "over" MPLS, Ethernet, etc. r1.owls#show arp | inc 198.32.245.6 Internet 198.32.245.62 001f.128e.56f2 ARPA FastEthernet0/1 r1.owls#show ipv6 neighbors | inc 20

RE: Google Over IPV6

2009-04-01 Thread TJ
>>> AFAIK you have to have native peering with them to be part of the >>> pilot. At least, you did when we signed up. They may have relaxed >>> that since. >> >> According to a Google IPv6 talk I attended yesterday, they don't >> intend to relax that rule. Tunneling ipv6 connectivity over ipv4 i

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-31 Thread Matthew Moyle-Croft
Everything is a tunnel... Tube man. Everything is a tube... and Al Gore invented tubes. MMC Nick -- Matthew Moyle-Croft Internode/Agile Peering and Core Networks

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-31 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Nick Hilliard wrote: > On 27/03/2009 15:26, Leo Bicknell wrote: >> AFAIK you have to have native peering with them to be part of the >> pilot. At least, you did when we signed up. They may have relaxed >> that since. > > According to a Google IPv6 talk I attended yesterday, they don't intend > t

RE: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-30 Thread Teun Vink
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 11:03 -0400, Robert D. Scott wrote: > Their press would indicate that more than www is IPV6. > > When I posted my original note, I was not really looking for end user > feedback, but rather is anyone peering V6 with them on either a public > fabric or private peer. Any idea

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-28 Thread Bernhard Schmidt
Athanasios Douitsis wrote: > Heard that they are somewhat picky about who they -enable. Our campus > has had native IPv6 everywhere and upwards all the way to Geant for many > years. We are thinking of applying in the hopes that it will boost IPv6 > usage. Did you have any trouble getting th

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Kevin Oberman
eer. Any idea if they have native V6 > > transit, or are tunneling, and to where. > > Google seems to aim at Tier 1 status for IPv6. No transit, no > tunneling. > >From their web page at http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/: "To qualify for Google over IPv6, your network

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Nathan Ward
On 27/03/2009, at 11:20 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: Google seems to aim at Tier 1 status for IPv6. No transit, no tunneling. That seems to be the case, yep. It's an interesting plan. On 27/03/2009, at 8:03 AM, Robert D. Scott wrote: Their press would indicate that more than www is IPV6. Y

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Florian Weimer
* Robert D. Scott: > When I posted my original note, I was not really looking for end > user feedback, but rather is anyone peering V6 with them on either a > public fabric or private peer. Any idea if they have native V6 > transit, or are tunneling, and to where. Google seems to aim at Tier 1 st

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Mark Andrews
>> > >> ipv6.google.com looks better to me than the IPv4 version does. > >> More comfort. It is worth the trouble with teredo. > > > > Um, are you sure you are using Google over IPv6? > > > > This is *not the same thing* as ipv6.google.com. > >

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
t; ipv6.google.com looks better to me than the IPv4 version does. > >> More comfort. It is worth the trouble with teredo. > > > > Um, are you sure you are using Google over IPv6? > > > > This is *not the same thing* as ipv6.google.com. > > > > Google o

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Peter Dambier
is worth the trouble with teredo. > > Um, are you sure you are using Google over IPv6? > > This is *not the same thing* as ipv6.google.com. > > Google over IPv6 is about accessing www.google.com via IPv6. For you to > be doing this, you must have IPv6 connectivity and your IPv6 netw

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Robert D. Scott wrote: http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/ http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/032509-google-ipv6-easy.html It's relatively easy to make _your own_ apps (i.e. ones you have the source for) support IPv6. Most companies, though, are completely reliant on their vendors, wh

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Charles Wyble
Steven M. Bellovin wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:46:50 +0100 Daniel Verlouw wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 09:34 -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: It's working for me, too, though I noticed that tcptraceroute (at least the version I have) doesn't do well with ipv6.google.com. seems to work fi

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 27/03/2009 15:26, Leo Bicknell wrote: AFAIK you have to have native peering with them to be part of the pilot. At least, you did when we signed up. They may have relaxed that since. According to a Google IPv6 talk I attended yesterday, they don't intend to relax that rule. Tunneling ipv6

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Athanasios Douitsis
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Daniel Verlouw wrote: > On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 08:18 -0400, Robert D. Scott wrote: > > Any one making use of Google IPV6? > > yes. We participate in the Google IPv6 trial program so our recursors > get records for www.google.com and so far it's been great, no

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:03:05AM -0400, Robert D. Scott wrote: > When I posted my original note, I was not really looking for end user > feedback, but rather is anyone peering V6 with them on either a public > fabric or private peer. Any idea if they have native V6 transit,

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Rob Evans
> When I posted my original note, I was not really looking for end user > feedback, but rather is anyone peering V6 with them on either a public > fabric or private peer. Any idea if they have native V6 transit, or are > tunneling, and to where. They are peering over some IXPs and private peerings

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Grzegorz Janoszka
Robert D. Scott wrote: When I posted my original note, I was not really looking for end user feedback, but rather is anyone peering V6 with them on either a public fabric or private peer. Any idea if they have native V6 transit, or are tunneling, and to where. No tuneling I think. We have with

RE: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Robert D. Scott
-0421 Cell -Original Message- From: Grzegorz Janoszka [mailto:grzeg...@janoszka.pl] Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:55 AM To: Daniel Verlouw Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Google Over IPV6 Daniel Verlouw wrote: > yes. We participate in the Google IPv6 trial program so our recursors &g

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Grzegorz Janoszka
Daniel Verlouw wrote: yes. We participate in the Google IPv6 trial program so our recursors get records for www.google.com and so far it's been great, no issues whatsoever. Same experiences - it just works. dan...@jun1> traceroute www.google.com traceroute6 to www.l.google.com (2001:4

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 08:18:50AM -0400, Robert D. Scott wrote: > Any one making use of Google IPV6? We are in the trial: % traceroute6 -n www.google.com traceroute6 to www.l.google.com (2001:4860:b002::68) from 2001:4f8:3:bb::5, 64 hops max, 12 byte packets 1 2001:4f8:3:

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:46:50 +0100 Daniel Verlouw wrote: > On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 09:34 -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > > It's working for me, too, though I noticed that tcptraceroute (at > > least the version I have) doesn't do well with ipv6.google.com. > > seems to work fine from over here:

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Daniel Verlouw
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 09:34 -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > It's working for me, too, though I noticed that tcptraceroute (at least > the version I have) doesn't do well with ipv6.google.com. seems to work fine from over here: # tcptraceroute6 www.google.com 80 traceroute to www.google.com (20

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:20:26 +1100 Shaun Ewing wrote: > > On 27/03/09 11:59 PM, "Daniel Verlouw" wrote: > > > yes. We participate in the Google IPv6 trial program so our > > recursors get records for www.google.com and so far it's been > > great, no issues whatsoever. > > Same. > > We'v

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Shaun Ewing
On 27/03/09 11:59 PM, "Daniel Verlouw" wrote: > yes. We participate in the Google IPv6 trial program so our recursors > get records for www.google.com and so far it's been great, no > issues whatsoever. Same. We've been participating since January and haven't had any problems: # tracerou

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Karl Auer
e you are using Google over IPv6? This is *not the same thing* as ipv6.google.com. Google over IPv6 is about accessing www.google.com via IPv6. For you to be doing this, you must have IPv6 connectivity and your IPv6 network must meet Google's fairly stringent requi

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Daniel Verlouw
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 08:18 -0400, Robert D. Scott wrote: > Any one making use of Google IPV6? yes. We participate in the Google IPv6 trial program so our recursors get records for www.google.com and so far it's been great, no issues whatsoever. dan...@jun1> traceroute www.google.com tra

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom
yup... and it is nice, adwords don't work pretty well (or at least on the GeoIP thingie), and i get less publicity to look at :-) --- Nuno Vieira nfsi telecom, lda. nuno.vie...@nfsi.pt Tel. (+351) 21 949 2300 - Fax (+351) 21 949 2301 http://www.nfsi.pt/ - "Robert D. Scott" wrote: > http

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Steve Bertrand
Robert D. Scott wrote: > http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/ > > http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/032509-google-ipv6-easy.html > > Any one making use of Google IPV6? It's been my Firefox home page ever since it was available. Steve

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Peter Dambier
Yes I do. I can use it but sometimes got trouble with teredo. Retry half an hour later works :) ipv6.google.com looks better to me than the IPv4 version does. More comfort. It is worth the trouble with teredo. Peter Robert D. Scott wrote: > http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/ > > http://www.n

Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Robert D. Scott
http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/ http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/032509-google-ipv6-easy.html Any one making use of Google IPV6? Robert D. Scott rob...@ufl.edu Senior Network Engineer 352-273-0113 Phone CNS - Network Services 352-392-2061 CNS Phone Tree