Re: GeoIP information

On 25 September 2015 at 17:52, Josh Luthman wrote: > With a new block it took less than a week. > > On Sep 25, 2015 11:36 AM, "Baldur Norddahl" > wrote: > >> You will find that it takes years before every site out there updated >> their >> copy of whatever geo database they are using. >> > Our o

Re: GeoIP information

On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 13:39:22 -0400, Clay Curtis said: > exclusively. I have dealt with cases in which a CDN responded to a client > request with a resource on another continent, thus having to cross an ocean > and adding considerable latency, when there was a POP on that continent. And what was

Re: GeoIP information

You're example is one specific case. I'm not advocating that it works in every case, or that geo-location should be used in routing decisions exclusively. I have dealt with cases in which a CDN responded to a client request with a resource on another continent, thus having to cross an ocean and a

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It'd really help if some larger content providers would give LIR's some tools to effectively manage GeoTargeting within IP allocations and the subnets therein that they own. In my experience it takes anywhere between 2 weeks and 6 month to get IP blocks effectively Geo-targeted. Google is one of

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On 25 Sep 2015, at 23:44, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: Which is why Akamai (and any other *sane* CDN) make their decisions based on network topology, not physical location +1 --- Roland Dobbins

Re: GeoIP information

On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 10:43:13 -0400, Clay Curtis said: > I don't believe anyone is actually using the LOC RR, but maybe I'm wrong. > This seems like the best way to store this type of data. I could see CDNs > being able to leverage this along with edns-client-subnet to decrease page > load times si

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With a new block it took less than a week. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 25, 2015 11:36 AM, "Baldur Norddahl" wrote: > You will find that it takes years before every site out there updated their > copy of whatever geo databa

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You will find that it takes years before every site out there updated their copy of whatever geo database they are using. Regards Baldur

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I don't believe anyone is either. We looked at it as well and after reviewing logs from our authoritative DNS server responsible for our in-addr.arpa zones, we saw zero queries for LOC records. Ray On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 10:43:13AM -0400, Clay Curtis wrote: > I don't believe anyone is actually

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I don't believe anyone is actually using the LOC RR, but maybe I'm wrong. This seems like the best way to store this type of data. I could see CDNs being able to leverage this along with edns-client-subnet to decrease page load times significantly. How is this still an issue? I mean, we have the

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https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1876 (EXPERIMENTAL) There appears to be a way of associating a subnet in the IN-ADDR.ARPA domain to a FQDN, which could then be queries for LOC data. For single addresses, the domain owner could opt to include location data for their domain. For subnets, the op

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On 25 Sep 2015, at 14:22, Fred Hollis wrote: See big telco's announcing /12's and having these IPs spread all over the country. All over the *world*. --- Roland Dobbins

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We have been using Maxmind's open source data set [0] on RIPEstat [1] now for quite a while and there have been quite many user complaints about the correctness of the location or the recency of the data. One reason can be that [0] is updated/released only once a month, usually beginning of the mo

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> They could purchase sales records from online retailers. Hey guys, > give us the IP address, city, state and zip code for each sale; we'll > pay you a nickle each. Then correlate that with BGP announcements that > show the range of impacted addresses. After looking more into the geo ip topic,

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It is a big pain to do so. We did a couple of times in the past and always took us many months. On 25.09.2015 at 03:48 Ian Clark wrote: Is there anyone here who has successfully changed their GeoIP data for a subset of their ARIN allocation? How do service providers get all the GeoIP companies

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On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Ray Van Dolson wrote: > I assumed it must be based off of WHOIS. The IP space I'm working with > is in the midwest (US). The address associated with it is from our > primary IP block out here in California, which it would have only been > able to gather from WHOI

Re: GeoIP information

Is there anyone here who has successfully changed their GeoIP data for a subset of their ARIN allocation? How do service providers get all the GeoIP companies to have correct information for their address ranges? Do they just pay them to update it? At first I thought it had to do with whois data,

Re: GeoIP information

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 09:41:42PM -0400, William Herrin wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Ian Clark wrote: > > Where do GeoIP companies get their data, if not whois records? > > I would assume that they query whois for one of their sources. They > don't have to enter any contract with AR

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On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Ian Clark wrote: > Where do GeoIP companies get their data, if not whois records? I would assume that they query whois for one of their sources. They don't have to enter any contract with ARIN to do so but they also can't promptly collect any sizable portion datab

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> Maxmind would have to violate ARIN's rules to collect your geoip > information through a feed of whois data. Those rules forbid > republication of the data. > > Try contacting them directly. Then download the files they publish and > check for yourself. > > https://s

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We did the same thing about a week ago, including a correction request with > maxmind to no avail, hence this thread. I have a feeling our patience won't > be rewarded... Maxmind would have to violate ARIN's rules to collect your geoip information through a feed of whois da

Re: GeoIP information

On Sep 24, 2015 5:54 PM, "Ray Van Dolson" wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 08:47:56PM -0400, William Herrin wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Roland Dobbins wrote: > > > On 25 Sep 2015, at 5:58, Ian Clark wrote: > > >> Any advice would be awesome! > > > There is no inherent correlatio

Re: GeoIP information

On 25 Sep 2015, at 8:02, Eric Tykwinski wrote: Why ask, I guess it worked in the past? Because folks need to obviate 'GeoIP' filtering so that their services/content can be accessed. --- Roland Dobbins

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I love OVH where they ask where you want your IP space to be geolocated, but it’s still France/Canada… Why ask, I guess it worked in the past? Sincerely, Eric Tykwinski TrueNet, Inc. P: 610-429-8300 F: 610-429-3222 > On Sep 24, 2015, at 8:55 PM, Roland Dobbins wrote: > > On 25 Sep 2015, at

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On 25 Sep 2015, at 7:47, William Herrin wrote: > Maxmind does not concur. --- Roland Dobbins

Re: GeoIP information

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 08:47:56PM -0400, William Herrin wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Roland Dobbins wrote: > > On 25 Sep 2015, at 5:58, Ian Clark wrote: > >> Any advice would be awesome! > > There is no inherent correlation between IP addressing and geopolitical > > boundaries. > >

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On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Roland Dobbins wrote: > On 25 Sep 2015, at 5:58, Ian Clark wrote: >> Any advice would be awesome! > There is no inherent correlation between IP addressing and geopolitical > boundaries. Maxmind does not concur. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin ..

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On 25 Sep 2015, at 5:58, Ian Clark wrote: Any advice would be awesome! There is no inherent correlation between IP addressing and geopolitical boundaries. --- Roland Dobbins

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Did that Wiki page ever come back up? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 24, 2015 7:01 PM, "Ian Clark" wrote: > How do service providers get all the GeoIP companies to have correct > information for their address ranges? Do they

GeoIP information

How do service providers get all the GeoIP companies to have correct information for their address ranges? Do they just pay them to update it? At first I thought it had to do with whois data, but my home Verizon IP whois lists Ashburn, VA, yet the GeoIP data shows my local city. We're trying to f

Re: GeoIP information page

Betty Thanks. I believe this information is really useful for trouble shooting of GeoIP. It is great job. I would like to copy to our local wiki for redundancy , and I will try to add Japan local GeoIP provider information to the wiki for Japan internet users and ISP. Regards, -Shishio (2012/11

Re: GeoIP information page

Hello Shishio, the nanog.cluepon.net environment was in fact moved. We will check to see if the data is still available and work to link it to the GeoIP presentation on nanog.org/nanog53 All best. Betty Betty Burke NANOG Executive Director 48377 Fremont Boulevard, Suite 117 Fremont, CA 94538 Tel

GeoIP information page

Hi As NANOG53 presentation described,most of information of GeoIP was written in this page. http://nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/GeoIP http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog53/presentations/Wednesday/Barnes.pdf But the service is not currently available. Was it moved to another? or Has someone backup?