Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6

2019-04-01 Thread Jamie Stephens
"Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG" Reply-To: "Aaron C. de Bruyn" Date: Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 4:26 PM To: "C. A. Fillekes" Cc: NANOG mailing list Subject: Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6 You're not alone. I talked with my local provider about 4 years ago

Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6

2019-04-01 Thread James R Cutler
> On Mar 31, 2019, at 9:50 PM, Matt Hoppes > wrote: > > The telephone example: > What IS the benefit of DTMF other than I can dial faster? None. And I can > use IVRs. Again - no impact to me as a telephone company. > OK, this is off topic to an extent, but DTMF provided the opportunity for

Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6

2019-03-31 Thread Brandon Martin
On 3/31/19 10:05 PM, Tom Beecher wrote: I’m in Spectrum land, née Time Warner, née Rigas Cash Extraction Machine... errr Adelphia. ( Buffalo / WNY ) We’ve had native v6 for quite a few years up here. Spectrum ex. Bright House/Time Warner varies by region. NY region has had it, apparently.

Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6

2019-03-31 Thread Bryan Holloway
sage- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Ca By Sent: Sunday, 31 March, 2019 18:53 To: Matt Hoppes Cc: Aaron C. de Bruyn; NANOG mailing list Subject: Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6 On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 4:20 PM Matt Hoppes wrote: Going to play devils advocate. I

Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6

2019-03-31 Thread Tom Beecher
I’m in Spectrum land, née Time Warner, née Rigas Cash Extraction Machine... errr Adelphia. ( Buffalo / WNY ) We’ve had native v6 for quite a few years up here. On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 16:55 Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 3/31/19 13:31, David Hubbard wrote: > > Things are no better in Spectrum land;

Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6

2019-03-31 Thread Luke Guillory
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Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6

2019-03-31 Thread Matt Hoppes
e fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says a >> lot about anticipated traffic volume. >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Ca By >>> Sent

Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6

2019-03-31 Thread Bryan Holloway
--- The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume. -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Ca By Sent: Sunday, 31 March, 2019 18:53 To: Matt Hoppes Cc: Aaron C. de Bruyn; NANOG

Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6

2019-03-31 Thread Mike Leber
icipated traffic volume. > > >> -Original Message- >> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Ca By >> Sent: Sunday, 31 March, 2019 18:53 >> To: Matt Hoppes >> Cc: Aaron C. de Bruyn; NANOG mailing list >> Subject: Re: Frontier rura

RE: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6

2019-03-31 Thread Keith Medcalf
ed traffic volume. >-Original Message- >From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Ca By >Sent: Sunday, 31 March, 2019 18:53 >To: Matt Hoppes >Cc: Aaron C. de Bruyn; NANOG mailing list >Subject: Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6 > > > >On S

Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6

2019-03-31 Thread Luke Guillory
Telcos had an advantage, they were able to put the cost of that new fancy switch into our cost study / rate base. So they were rewarded for spending money, and boy did they spend money. Luke Ns Sent from my iPhone On Mar 31, 2019, at 7:20 PM, Mike Leber mailto:mle...@he.net>> wrote: You

Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6

2019-03-31 Thread Ca By
On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 4:20 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > Going to play devils advocate. > > If frontier has a ton of ipv4 addresses, what benefit is there to them in > rolling out ipv6? > > What benefit is there to you? > I love xbox and xbox works better on ipv6,

Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6

2019-03-31 Thread Mike Leber
You mean like pulse dialing and stepper relays vs touch tone dialing? I'm sure there were people that felt the same about that too. That mindset is simply you already paid for the old stuff, it's working fine, you would rather not understand or think about the problems the new tech solves or bene

Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6

2019-03-31 Thread Matt Hoppes
Going to play devils advocate. If frontier has a ton of ipv4 addresses, what benefit is there to them in rolling out ipv6? What benefit is there to you? > On Mar 31, 2019, at 7:11 PM, C. A. Fillekes wrote: > > > Still it's pretty darn good having real broadband on the farm. One thing at >

Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6

2019-03-31 Thread C. A. Fillekes
Still it's pretty darn good having real broadband on the farm. One thing at a time. But, let's start thinking about ways to get Frontier up to speed on the IPv6 thing. On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 4:24 PM Aaron C. de Bruyn wrote: > You're not alone. > > I talked with my local provider about 4 year

Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6

2019-03-31 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 3/31/19 13:31, David Hubbard wrote: Things are no better in Spectrum land; gotta love the innovation in monopoly markets….  I ask every year and expect it in perhaps thirty. It depends if you're Charter or Time Warner. Charter does.

Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6

2019-03-31 Thread Randy Carpenter
via > NANOG" > Reply-To: "Aaron C. de Bruyn" > Date: Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 4:26 PM > To: "C. A. Fillekes" > Cc: NANOG mailing list > Subject: Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6 > > You're not alone. > > I talked with my local

Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6

2019-03-31 Thread David Hubbard
"C. A. Fillekes" Cc: NANOG mailing list Subject: Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6 You're not alone. I talked with my local provider about 4 years ago and they said "We will probably start looking into IPv6 next year". I talked with them last month and they said "Yeah,

Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6

2019-03-31 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG
You're not alone. I talked with my local provider about 4 years ago and they said "We will probably start looking into IPv6 next year". I talked with them last month and they said "Yeah, everyone seems to be offering it. I guess I'll have to start reading how to implement it". I'm sure 2045 will

Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6

2019-03-30 Thread C. A. Fillekes
So by COB yesterday we now officially have FIOS at our farm. Went from 3Mbps to around 30 measured average. Yay. It's a business account, Frontier. But...still no IPv6. The new router's capable of it. What's the hold up? Customer service's response is "We don't offer that".