You should do a rap song...
IPv6, IPv4, it is all my fault!
Internet was just an experiment
- Original Message -
From: "Joly MacFie"
To: "Ben McGinnes"
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Sunday, 30 January, 2011 6:36:21 AM
Subject: Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more
Thanks for the link to the vid. I see Geoff Huston spoke too. I've embedded
both on
http://www.isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=1713
FWIW Vint has been using this as an intro to IPv6 for years.. in fact I've
got some video to edit of him speaking in 1999 - I'll look for it..
j
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:43 AM,
On 28/01/11 7:03 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> Let me clarify:
>
> The original question was (so far as I could see): "Was Fox making up the
> quote where Vint took the blame for IPv4 exhaustion?"
>
> The answer, of course, was "no, they didn't; lots of people have the quote".
If you want to see and
> -Original Message-
> From: Jay Ashworth [mailto:j...@baylink.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:51 PM
> To: NANOG
> Subject: Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Owen DeLong"
On Jan 27, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Brian Johnson wrote:
> I really wish people would keep their personal/political bias outside the
> list unless it is specific and relevant. What other "main-stream" news
> organization has made any reports on this issue?
>
CNN, which actually got it right several
- Original Message -
> From: "Owen DeLong"
> > Fox didn't screw up, for a change, and Vint's quote appears in many
> > other news sources. Apparently, I'm the only one on Nanog who knows
> > about this new thing called The Google. :-)
> >
> I don't think Vint's quote was the part where we
On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Brian Johnson"
>
>> I really wish people would keep their personal/political bias outside
>> the list unless it is specific and relevant. What other "main-stream"
>> news organization has made any reports
On 1/27/2011 6:24 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote:
On 27/01/2011 11:21, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
"I thought it was an experiment and I thought that 4.3 billion IPv4
addresses would be enough to do an experiment," Cerf was quoted as
saying,
adding it is his "fault" that "we were running out of the addresse
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Brian Johnson wrote:
> I really wish people would keep their personal/political bias outside the
> list unless it is specific and relevant. What other "main-stream" news
> organization has made any reports on this issue?
>
> To be clear, FOX screwed this up big t
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 08:20:54PM -0500, Steven Bellovin wrote:
>
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 4:53 22PM, mikea wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:26:58PM -0800, Mark Keymer wrote:
> >> What I don't understand is I can only guess they must have a IT team.
> >> And Maybe even 1 or more people that
On Jan 27, 2011, at 4:53 22PM, mikea wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:26:58PM -0800, Mark Keymer wrote:
>> What I don't understand is I can only guess they must have a IT team.
>> And Maybe even 1 or more people that view this list. Why don't they just
>> talk to there own staff about the issu
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Jorge Amodio wrote:
>> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/26/internet-run-ip-addresses-happens-anyones-guess/
> "It's the end of the web as we know it. " We are doomed !!
> Glad to know that, since a large percentage of it suxs.
> Can we go back to the ftp.fun
On 1/27/2011 12:56 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
On Thursday, January 27, 2011 03:26:58 pm Mark Keymer wrote:
If you work at FOX maybe you should help get the news guys on the right
page. :)
Coming from broadcast engineering prior to my current IT gig, let me tell you
that in most larger broadcast org
lp get the news guys on the right
page. :)
Sincerely,
Mark
On 1/27/2011 11:51 AM, George, Wes E [NTK] wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Jay Ashworth [mailto:j...@baylink.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:06 PM
To: NANOG
Subject: Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addre
On Thursday, January 27, 2011 03:26:58 pm Mark Keymer wrote:
> If you work at FOX maybe you should help get the news guys on the right
> page. :)
Coming from broadcast engineering prior to my current IT gig, let me tell you
that in most larger broadcast organizations the tech folk are rather fort
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:26:58PM -0800, Mark Keymer wrote:
> What I don't understand is I can only guess they must have a IT team.
> And Maybe even 1 or more people that view this list. Why don't they just
> talk to there own staff about the issues? Maybe one of the IT guess saw
> the issues talk
.@baylink.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:06 PM
>> To: NANOG
>> Subject: Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Brian Johnson"
>>> To be clear, FOX screwed this up b
George, Wes E [NTK] wrote:
The second one from several months ago is still borked:
"IPv4, ... the unique 32-digit number used to identify each computer, website
or internet-connected device. ... The solution to the problem is IPv6, which
uses a 128-digit address." So, first it was 32 digits,
Let me clarify:
The original question was (so far as I could see): "Was Fox making up the
quote where Vint took the blame for IPv4 exhaustion?"
The answer, of course, was "no, they didn't; lots of people have the quote".
I wasn't speaking to the technical details of the actual piece, which,
clea
> -Original Message-
> From: Jay Ashworth [mailto:j...@baylink.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:06 PM
> To: NANOG
> Subject: Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Brian Johnson"
&g
On 1/27/2011 2:43 PM, david raistrick wrote:
>
>
> here's the original quote (which a friend had pasted to me):
>
> "Web developers have tried to compensate for this problem by creating IPv6 --
> a system
> that recognizes six-digit IP addresses rather than four-digit ones."
And as replied privat
here's the original quote (which a friend had pasted to me):
"Web developers have tried to compensate for this problem by creating IPv6
-- a system that recognizes six-digit IP addresses rather than four-digit
ones."
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, david raistrick wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Jay
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Jay Ashworth wrote:
Fox didn't screw up, for a change, and Vint's quote appears in many
other news sources. Apparently, I'm the only one on Nanog who knows
about this new thing called The Google. :-)
Fox (in the linked article) didn't quote Vint.
They said useful thing
[ Sorry; forgot to address this to the list, earlier. ]
- Original Message -
> From: "Brian Johnson"
> I'm a bit torn on this issue. I haven't even heard any other
> "main-stream" sources say anything on this topic. But Incorrect info
> is bad too.
>
> I hope the viewers who watched thi
- Original Message -
> From: "Brian Johnson"
> I really wish people would keep their personal/political bias outside
> the list unless it is specific and relevant. What other "main-stream"
> news organization has made any reports on this issue?
>
> To be clear, FOX screwed this up big ti
On Jan 27, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Brian Johnson wrote:
> I really wish people would keep their personal/political bias outside the
> list unless it is specific and relevant. What other "main-stream" news
> organization has made any reports on this issue?
As much as I agree with the comments people h
On Jan 27, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote:
>> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/26/internet-run-ip-addresses-happens-anyones-guess/
>
> "It's the end of the web as we know it. " We are doomed !!
>
> Glad to know that, since a large percentage of it suxs.
>
> Can we go back to the f
t;To: Brian Johnson
>Cc: nanog@nanog.org
>Subject: Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses
>
>On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Brian Johnson
>wrote:
>> I'm a bit torn on this issue. I haven't even heard any other "main-stream"
>sources say anyth
> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/26/internet-run-ip-addresses-happens-anyones-guess/
"It's the end of the web as we know it. " We are doomed !!
Glad to know that, since a large percentage of it suxs.
Can we go back to the ftp.funet.fi (still up !! ) and gopher ?
Cheers
Jorge
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Brian Johnson wrote:
> I'm a bit torn on this issue. I haven't even heard any other "main-stream"
> sources say anything on this topic. But Incorrect info is bad too.
>
> I hope the viewers who watched this are getting the gist that "Something
> wicked this way
;-Original Message-
>From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com]
>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 7:49 AM
>To: Nick Hilliard
>Cc: nanog@nanog.org
>Subject: Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses
>
>
>On Jan 27, 2011, at 4:24 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote
On Jan 27, 2011, at 4:24 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote:
> On 27/01/2011 11:21, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
>> "I thought it was an experiment and I thought that 4.3 billion IPv4
>> addresses would be enough to do an experiment," Cerf was quoted as saying,
>> adding it is his "fault" that "we were running ou
At 12:24 27/01/2011 +, Nick Hilliard wrote:
On 27/01/2011 11:21, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
"I thought it was an experiment and I thought that 4.3 billion IPv4
addresses would be enough to do an experiment," Cerf was quoted as saying,
adding it is his "fault" that "we were running out of the add
--Original Message-
From: Hank Nussbacher [mailto:h...@efes.iucc.ac.il]
Sent: 27 January 2011 11:21
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses
"World to run out of IP addresses soon, Internet expert says"
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/sci/2
On 27/01/2011 11:21, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
"I thought it was an experiment and I thought that 4.3 billion IPv4
addresses would be enough to do an experiment," Cerf was quoted as saying,
adding it is his "fault" that "we were running out of the addresses.""
Fortunately, web developers have fixe
es or
computer problems experienced.
-Original Message-
From: Hank Nussbacher
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:21:20 +1100
To: "nanog@nanog.org"
Subject: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses
>"World to run out of IP addresses soon, Internet expert says"
"World to run out of IP addresses soon, Internet expert says"
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/sci/2011-01/26/c_13708282.htm
"Vint Cerf, who helped create IPv4 in 1977 and one of the founding fathers
of the Web, told Australia's Sydney Morning Herald that IP addresses will
be used up soon
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