On 7/3/2014 3:31 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:00 PM, David Hofstee
wrote:
About #3... I had a little discussion on abuse-wg@RIPE a while ago
about keeping records up to date and relevant. See below.
Nobody at RIPE cares much at the moment (to actually pick up this
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:00 PM, David Hofstee wrote:
> About #3... I had a little discussion on abuse-wg@RIPE a while ago about
> keeping records up to date and relevant. See below.
>
> Nobody at RIPE cares much at the moment (to actually pick up this subject).
> Maybe they need a push with a Te
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Van: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] Namens Andrei Robachevsky
Verzonden: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 4:24 PM
Aan: NANOG
Onderwerp: Feedback Requested: Routing Resilience Manifesto
Colleagues,
A small group of network operators has been working on d
On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:
> Is the INOC-DBA project still around? Would
> love to sign up for that and be able to check off
> #3 as well.
Yep. We had a bit of a dry spell on funding for it for a while, but we have
someone starting full-time on it again in mid-August, a
--- mpet...@netflight.com wrote:
From: Matthew Petach
Once that's done, all that's left is the naked routing
run. With the way temperatures have been, I'm
all in favour of that--pick a date, let's make it happen!
-
Nooo A bunch
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Andrei Robachevsky
wrote:
> Colleagues,
>
> A small group of network operators has been working on defining a
> minimal, but feasible package of recommended measures that, if deployed
> on a wide scale, could result in visible improvements to the security
> and res
On Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Larry Sheldon wrote:
On 7/2/2014 1:00 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
On Jul 2, 2014, at 1:52 PM, William Herrin wrote:
People will notice you streaking across a football field. They won't
pay the slightest attention to what you have to say but they sure will
notice you. Shall we or
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
> how can we improve?
Hi Jared,
Ask folks in the IRTF to hash out architectures for efficiently
propagating permitted source information. The manual processes we have
today don't cut it. Ask folks in the IETF and build a protocol or two
around t
On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote:
> On 7/2/2014 1:00 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
>>
>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 1:52 PM, William Herrin wrote:
>>
>>> People will notice you streaking across a football field. They won't
>>> pay the slightest attention to what you have to say but they sure
On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:22 PM, William Herrin wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
>> No, but how else do you suggest we work to address these problems?
>> While a naked run isn't my first choice, I am interested in practical
>> solutions
>> and responses. I've privately a
On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 13:52:26 -0400, William Herrin said:
> People will notice you streaking across a football field. They won't
> pay the slightest attention to what you have to say but they sure will
> notice you. Shall we organize a naked routing run?
Ew. That's a mental image I didn't need. P
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
> No, but how else do you suggest we work to address these problems?
> While a naked run isn't my first choice, I am interested in practical
> solutions
> and responses. I've privately and publicly documented some of my challenges
> securing my
On 7/2/2014 1:00 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
On Jul 2, 2014, at 1:52 PM, William Herrin wrote:
People will notice you streaking across a football field. They won't
pay the slightest attention to what you have to say but they sure will
notice you. Shall we organize a naked routing run?
No, but ho
On Jul 2, 2014, at 1:52 PM, William Herrin wrote:
> People will notice you streaking across a football field. They won't
> pay the slightest attention to what you have to say but they sure will
> notice you. Shall we organize a naked routing run?
No, but how else do you suggest we work to addre
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Livingood, Jason
wrote:
> On the other hand, people will notice & read a Œmanifesto¹. The industry
> has preached things like BCP38 for many years with not great progress...
Howdy,
Best practices just means you're not quite the best -- often a worthy
trade for con
On 7/2/2014 11:20 AM, William Herrin wrote:
Seriously, manifesto? What's next, some routing unabombers? Oh wait, I
guess we already have those, don't we?
Seriously. And it is actually a deeper wound than that.
The whole document (or as much of it as I was willing to read, anyway)
is worded
On the other hand, people will notice & read a Œmanifesto¹. The industry
has preached things like BCP38 for many years with not great progress...
On 7/2/14, 12:20 PM, "William Herrin" wrote:
>On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Andrei Robachevsky
> wrote:
>> We called this set of recommendations a
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Andrei Robachevsky
wrote:
> We called this set of recommendations a Routing Resilience Manifesto –
> you can find a draft document here: https://www.routingmanifesto.org/.
Howdy,
First recommendation: ditch the word "manifesto." Manifesto is loaded
with so many n
Colleagues,
A small group of network operators has been working on defining a
minimal, but feasible package of recommended measures that, if deployed
on a wide scale, could result in visible improvements to the security
and resilience of the global routing system.
Many operators are ahead of the
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