Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

2017-01-19 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
iami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - > From: "Tore Anderson" > To: "Saku Ytti" > Cc: "nanog list" > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 1:40:47 AM > Subje

Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

2017-01-17 Thread Phil Bedard
behalf of joel jaeggli Date: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 00:22 To: Yucong Sun , Tore Anderson , Saku Ytti Cc: nanog list Subject: Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing On 1/15/17 11:00 PM, Yucong Sun wrote: > In my setup, I use an BIRD instance to combine multi

Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

2017-01-16 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/15/17 11:00 PM, Yucong Sun wrote: > In my setup, I use an BIRD instance to combine multiple internet full > tables, i use some filter to generate some override route to send to my L3 > switch to do routing. The L3 switch is configured with the default route > to the main transit provider , i

Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

2017-01-16 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/16/17 6:53 AM, Tore Anderson wrote: > * Saku Ytti > >> On 16 January 2017 at 14:36, Tore Anderson wrote: >> >>> Put it another way, my «Internet facing» interfaces are typically >>> 10GEs with a few (kilo)metres of dark fibre that x-connects into my >>> IP-transit providers' routers sitting

Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

2017-01-16 Thread Saku Ytti
On 16 January 2017 at 16:53, Tore Anderson wrote: Hey, > (Server) --10GE--> (T2 leaf X) --40GE--> (T2 spine) --40GE--> > (T2 leaf Y) --10GE--> (IP-transit/"the Internet") --10GE--> (Client) > > If I understand you correctly you're saying this is a "suspect" topology > that cannot achieve 10G tra

Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

2017-01-16 Thread Tore Anderson
* Saku Ytti > On 16 January 2017 at 14:36, Tore Anderson wrote: > > > Put it another way, my «Internet facing» interfaces are typically > > 10GEs with a few (kilo)metres of dark fibre that x-connects into my > > IP-transit providers' routers sitting in nearby rooms or racks > > (worst case somewh

Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

2017-01-16 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 16 janvier 2017 14:08 +0200, Saku Ytti  : > I wonder if true whitelabel is possible, would some 'real' HW vendor, > of BRCM size, release HW docs openly? Then some integrator could start > selling the HW with BOM+10-20%, no support, no software at all. And > community could build the actual sof

Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

2017-01-16 Thread Saku Ytti
On 16 January 2017 at 14:36, Tore Anderson wrote: > But here you're talking about the RTT of each individual link, right, > not the RTT of the entire path through the Internet for any given flow? I'm talking about RTT of end-to-end, which will determine window-size, which will determine burst-si

Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

2017-01-16 Thread Mike Hammett
mtiaz" To: "nanog list" Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 11:24:36 PM Subject: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing Hello, A while back there was a discussion on how to do optimized (dynamic) BGP routing on a L3 switch which is only capable of handing a subset o

Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

2017-01-16 Thread James Jun
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 01:36:54PM +0100, Tore Anderson wrote: > > But here you're talking about the RTT of each individual link, right, > not the RTT of the entire path through the Internet for any given flow? > > Put it another way, my ??Internet facing?? interfaces are typically 10GEs with > a

Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

2017-01-16 Thread David Bass
Arista has a version of their switches that can handle a full table. I think what the OP is asking about though is something like openflow though. Some have played around with using it to modify the switches routing table based on flows that exist. The same theory applies in regard to the p

Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

2017-01-16 Thread Tore Anderson
* Saku Ytti > Why I said it won't be a problem inside DC, is because low RTT, which > means small bursts. I'm talking about backend network infra in DC, not > Internet facing. Anywhere where you'll see large RTT and > speed/availability step-down you'll need buffers (unless we change TCP > to pac

Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

2017-01-16 Thread Saku Ytti
On 16 January 2017 at 08:40, Tore Anderson wrote: Hey, > Do you know of any traditional «Internet scale» router that can do ~720 > Gbps of throughput for less than 10x the price of a Trident II box? Or > even <100kUSD? (Disregarding any volume discounts.) It's really hard to talk about pricing,

Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

2017-01-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
I'm going to be keeping a close eye on this: http://blogs.cisco.com/sp/a-bigger-helping-of-internet-please On Jan 16, 2017 1:03 AM, "Yucong Sun" wrote: > In my setup, I use an BIRD instance to combine multiple internet full > tables, i use some filter to generate some override route to send to

Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

2017-01-15 Thread Yucong Sun
In my setup, I use an BIRD instance to combine multiple internet full tables, i use some filter to generate some override route to send to my L3 switch to do routing. The L3 switch is configured with the default route to the main transit provider , if BIRD is down, the route would be unoptimized,

Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

2017-01-15 Thread Tore Anderson
Hi Saku, > > https://www.redpill-linpro.com/sysadvent/2016/12/09/slimming-routing-table.html > > --- > As described in a prevous post, we’re testing a HPE Altoline 6920 in > our lab. The Altoline 6920 is, like other switches based on the > Broadcom Trident II chipset, able to handle up to 720 Gbp

Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

2017-01-14 Thread Saku Ytti
On 14 January 2017 at 07:32, Jeremy Austin wrote: Hey, > https://www.redpill-linpro.com/sysadvent/2016/12/09/slimming-routing-table.html --- As described in a prevous post, we’re testing a HPE Altoline 6920 in our lab. The Altoline 6920 is, like other switches based on the Broadcom Trident II

Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

2017-01-13 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 14 janvier 2017 05:24 GMT, Faisal Imtiaz  : > A while back there was a discussion on how to do optimized (dynamic) > BGP routing on a L3 switch which is only capable of handing a subset > of BGP Routing table. > > Someone has pointed out that there was a project to do just that, and > had poste

Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

2017-01-13 Thread Jeremy Austin
Tore Anderson: https://www.redpill-linpro.com/sysadvent/2016/12/09/slimming-routing-table.html On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 8:24 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > Hello, > > A while back there was a discussion on how to do optimized (dynamic) BGP > routing on a L3 switch which is only capable of handing a

External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

2017-01-13 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Hello, A while back there was a discussion on how to do optimized (dynamic) BGP routing on a L3 switch which is only capable of handing a subset of BGP Routing table. Someone has pointed out that there was a project to do just that, and had posted a link to a presentation on a European operato