Re: DNS anycasting - multiple DNS servers on same subnet Vs registrar/registry policies

2012-05-29 Thread David Conrad
Jimmy, On May 28, 2012, at 9:58 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote: > The purpose of using a registrar is to establish DNS delegation, not > to validate your site's redundancy meets the absolute best possible > practices for fault tolerance. Terminology nit: the purpose of a registrar is to allow folks the fre

Re: DNS anycasting - multiple DNS servers on same subnet Vs registrar/registry policies

2012-05-29 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 06:56:29PM -0500, Brett Frankenberger wrote a message of 15 lines which said: > How does your employer know if two nameservers (two IP addresses) are > on the same subnet? The current heuristic for IPv4 is "belongs in the same /28" (and /64 for IPv6). Otherwise, Mark A

Re: DNS anycasting - multiple DNS servers on same subnet Vs registrar/registry policies

2012-05-28 Thread Randy Bush
> It is more important that a domain registrar not refuse to register a > domain, or erroneously declare a valid listing invalid. > > The purpose of using a registrar is to establish DNS delegation, not > to validate your site's redundancy meets the absolute best possible > practices for fault tol

Re: DNS anycasting - multiple DNS servers on same subnet Vs registrar/registry policies

2012-05-28 Thread Jimmy Hess
On 5/28/12, David Conrad wrote: > On May 28, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Anurag Bhatia wrote: >> I know few registry/registrars >> which do not accept both (or all) name servers of domain name on same >> subnet. They demand at least 1 DNS server should be on different subnet for >> failover reasons (old th

Re: DNS anycasting - multiple DNS servers on same subnet Vs registrar/registry policies

2012-05-28 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <5ebc0868-05d2-435e-a671-e957af72f...@one.com>, Mikkel Mondrup Krist ensen writes: > > On May 29, 2012, at 01:56 , Brett Frankenberger wrote: > > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 09:32:29PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:21:10AM +0530, > >> Anurag Bhatia w

Re: DNS anycasting - multiple DNS servers on same subnet Vs registrar/registry policies

2012-05-28 Thread Mikkel Mondrup Kristensen
On May 29, 2012, at 01:56 , Brett Frankenberger wrote: > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 09:32:29PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:21:10AM +0530, >> Anurag Bhatia wrote >> a message of 28 lines which said: >> >>> I know few registry/registrars which do not accept both

Re: DNS anycasting - multiple DNS servers on same subnet Vs registrar/registry policies

2012-05-28 Thread Brett Frankenberger
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 09:32:29PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:21:10AM +0530, > Anurag Bhatia wrote > a message of 28 lines which said: > > > I know few registry/registrars which do not accept both (or all) > > name servers of domain name on same subnet. > >

Re: DNS anycasting - multiple DNS servers on same subnet Vs registrar/registry policies

2012-05-28 Thread Max Larson Henry
hatia >> Cc : NANOG Mailing List >> Objet : Re: DNS anycasting - multiple DNS servers on same subnet Vs >> registrar/registry policies >> Envoyé : 28 mai, 2012 17:03 >> ... >> Envoyé par mon BlackBerry de Digicel > > QED, eh?

Re: DNS anycasting - multiple DNS servers on same subnet Vs registrar/registry policies

2012-05-28 Thread Randy Bush
maxlarson.he...@transversal.ht wrote: > Q > --Message d'origine-- > De : Randy Bush > À : Anurag Bhatia > Cc : NANOG Mailing List > Objet : Re: DNS anycasting - multiple DNS servers on same subnet Vs > registrar/registry policies > Envoyé : 28 mai, 2012

Re: DNS anycasting - multiple DNS servers on same subnet Vs registrar/registry policies

2012-05-28 Thread maxlarson . henry
Q --Message d'origine-- De : Randy Bush À : Anurag Bhatia Cc : NANOG Mailing List Objet : Re: DNS anycasting - multiple DNS servers on same subnet Vs registrar/registry policies Envoyé : 28 mai, 2012 17:03 > I am building redundancy within that setup. I mean it will be software

Re: DNS anycasting - multiple DNS servers on same subnet Vs registrar/registry policies

2012-05-28 Thread Randy Bush
> I am building redundancy within that setup. I mean it will be software > based BGP so if hardware if fried up, it will break BGP session and pull > off routes anyway and for cases like DNS server (software) failure, I will > monitor it via simple bash script which can turn bgp daemon down. So onc

Re: DNS anycasting - multiple DNS servers on same subnet Vs registrar/registry policies

2012-05-28 Thread Anurag Bhatia
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:07 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > On May 28, 2012, at 15:24 , Anurag Bhatia wrote: > > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Tony Finch wrote: > >> Anurag Bhatia wrote: > >>> > >>> One small concern I wanted to discuss here. I know few > >>> registry/registrars which do no

Re: DNS anycasting - multiple DNS servers on same subnet Vs registrar/registry policies

2012-05-28 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On May 28, 2012, at 15:24 , Anurag Bhatia wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Tony Finch wrote: >> Anurag Bhatia wrote: >>> >>> One small concern I wanted to discuss here. I know few >>> registry/registrars which do not accept both (or all) name servers of >>> domain name on same subnet.

Re: DNS anycasting - multiple DNS servers on same subnet Vs registrar/registry policies

2012-05-28 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:21:10AM +0530, Anurag Bhatia wrote a message of 28 lines which said: > I know few registry/registrars which do not accept both (or all) > name servers of domain name on same subnet. Since my employer is one of these registries, let me mention that I fully agree with

Re: DNS anycasting - multiple DNS servers on same subnet Vs registrar/registry policies

2012-05-28 Thread Anurag Bhatia
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Tony Finch wrote: > Anurag Bhatia wrote: > > > > One small concern I wanted to discuss here. I know few > > registry/registrars which do not accept both (or all) name servers of > > domain name on same subnet. They demand at least 1 DNS server should be > > on d

Re: DNS anycasting - multiple DNS servers on same subnet Vs registrar/registry policies

2012-05-28 Thread Tony Finch
Anurag Bhatia wrote: > > One small concern I wanted to discuss here. I know few > registry/registrars which do not accept both (or all) name servers of > domain name on same subnet. They demand at least 1 DNS server should be > on different subnet for failover reasons (old thoughts). > > How one c

Re: DNS anycasting - multiple DNS servers on same subnet Vs registrar/registry policies

2012-05-28 Thread David Conrad
Anurag, On May 28, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Anurag Bhatia wrote: > I know few registry/registrars > which do not accept both (or all) name servers of domain name on same > subnet. They demand at least 1 DNS server should be on different subnet for > failover reasons (old thoughts). IMHO appropriately s

DNS anycasting - multiple DNS servers on same subnet Vs registrar/registry policies

2012-05-28 Thread Anurag Bhatia
Greetings everyone! One small concern I wanted to discuss here. I know few registry/registrars which do not accept both (or all) name servers of domain name on same subnet. They demand at least 1 DNS server should be on different subnet for failover reasons (old thoughts). How one can deal with