hi roland
- yup... agreed on most all of your points ...
- good referral to prev ddos discussions
- i'm just saying ..
if one cannot defend and know that their ddos mitigation
is working on the low level free script kiddie ddos attacks,
they should not worry about scalin
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 12:38:18 -0700, alvin nanog said:
> On 07/29/15 at 05:47am, Roland Dobbins wrote:
> > On 29 Jul 2015, at 5:19, alvin nanog wrote:
> > >and all the other ISP's routers along the way that had to transport
> > >those gigabyte/terabyte of useless ddos packets
> >
> > No company can
On 30 Jul 2015, at 2:38, alvin nanog wrote:
there is no need to pay people to attack your servers ...
Unless you don't have the expertise to do it yourself. Again, I
advocate an organic defense capability and an organic testing
capability, but there are many organizations which unfortunatel
maybe a "misunderstanding" ... it's an old "be careful euphomism(sp?)
and not meant as "literal get out of jail" ( from monopoly game too )
- it's intended as make sure the corp lawyers are involved that
is requesting the ddos simulation/testin
atson
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 8:28 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: DDOS Simulation
> On Jul 28, 2015, at 9:05 PM, jim deleskie wrote:
>
> If anyone offers to "test" your DDoS devices across a network that you do
> not 100% own, you are risking legal issues.
>
Two more options:
- http://www.redwolfsecurity.com/#!ddos_testing/cqd6 (not vouching for
them, just raising awareness of the options)
- Spin up a bunch of VMs at various cloud providers and launch your own
attacks against yourself. Note that you should only do this with the
permission of the c
> On Jul 28, 2015, at 9:05 PM, jim deleskie wrote:
>
> If anyone offers to "test" your DDoS devices across a network that you do
> not 100% own, you are risking legal issues.
>
> If they offer to test it across your own network, make sure you have in
> writing from you upper management that the
If anyone offers to "test" your DDoS devices across a network that you do
not 100% own, you are risking legal issues.
If they offer to test it across your own network, make sure you have in
writing from you upper management that they understand the risk and approve
it.
If you choose to do it anyw
Hi Dovid,
I recommend checking out NimbusDDOS. http://www.nimbusddos.com/
I know that they have done exactly this for several notable customers,
and also provide insights into impacts (they don't just blindly run the
attacks for you, they provide intelligence behind what's happening to
help you m
On 29 Jul 2015, at 5:19, alvin nanog wrote:
as previously noted by others, legit corp will ask you for lots of
legal paperwork for their "get out of jail card" for DDoS'ing your
servers
and all the other ISP's routers along the way that had to transport
those gigabyte/terabyte of useless ddo
hi dovid
On 07/28/15 at 02:31pm, Dovid Bender wrote:
> We are looking for a company that can launch a DDOS attack against the
> solutions we are testing. I don't want a proof of concept from the company
> that will be offering DDOS protection since they can simulate an easy
> attack and then miti
for you before buying the product
From: dro...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:31:21 -0700
Subject: Re: DDOS Simulation
To: do...@telecurve.com
CC: nanog@nanog.org
Looking for similar here.
-Dan
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Dovid Bender
wrote:
Hi All,
We are looking into a few diff
ou before buying the product
>
> > From: dro...@gmail.com
> > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:31:21 -0700
> > Subject: Re: DDOS Simulation
> > To: do...@telecurve.com
> > CC: nanog@nanog.org
>
> >
> > Looking for similar here.
> >
> > -Dan
;
>>> From: dro...@gmail.com
>>> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:31:21 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: DDOS Simulation
>>> To: do...@telecurve.com
>>> CC: nanog@nanog.org
>>>
>>> Looking for similar here.
>>>
>>> -Dan
>>>
>
Hello!
My machines have 16GB of memory but traffic generator uses about ~1GB
of memory for 10GE link.
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 12:36 AM, alvin nanog
wrote:
>
> hi pavel
>
> On 07/28/15 at 12:02am, Pavel Odintsov wrote:
>> It's poor man's traffic generator :)
>
> that's the best kind :-)
> as long
e a solution for you. Some companies perform an attack
> simulation for you before buying the product
>
>> From: dro...@gmail.com
>> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:31:21 -0700
>> Subject: Re: DDOS Simulation
>> To: do...@telecurve.com
>> CC: nanog@nanog.org
>>
bject: Re: DDOS Simulation
> To: do...@telecurve.com
> CC: nanog@nanog.org
>
> Looking for similar here.
>
> -Dan
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Dovid Bender wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > We are looking into a few different DDOS solutions f
hi pavel
On 07/28/15 at 12:02am, Pavel Odintsov wrote:
> It's poor man's traffic generator :)
that's the best kind :-)
as long as it gets the job done and you get to control what it does
> My test lab is i7 2600 with 2 port Intel X520 10GE and Intel Xeon E5
> 2604 witj 2 port Intel X520 10GE.
Hello!
It's poor man's traffic generator :)
My test lab is i7 2600 with 2 port Intel X520 10GE and Intel Xeon E5
2604 witj 2 port Intel X520 10GE.
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:59 PM, wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 23:32:56 +0300, Pavel Odintsov said:
>
>> I would like to recommend MoonGen for gene
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 23:32:56 +0300, Pavel Odintsov said:
> I would like to recommend MoonGen for generating very high speed
> attacks (I have generated up to 56 mpps/40GE with it).
OK, I'll bite - what hardware were you using to inject that many packets?
pgpj7W2wD3nVq.pgp
Description: PGP signa
Hello!
I would like to recommend MoonGen for generating very high speed
attacks (I have generated up to 56 mpps/40GE with it).
There are another open project: quezstresser.com
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:25 PM, alvin nanog
wrote:
>
> hi dovid
>
> On 07/27/15 at 11:32am, Dovid Bender wrote:
>> We
hi dovid
On 07/27/15 at 11:32am, Dovid Bender wrote:
> We are looking into a few different DDOS solutions for a client. We need a
> LEGITIMATE company that can simulate some DDOS attacks (the generic +
> specific to the clients business). Anyone have any recommendations?
i've compiled a fairly c
Looking for similar here.
-Dan
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Dovid Bender wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> We are looking into a few different DDOS solutions for a client. We need a
> LEGITIMATE company that can simulate some DDOS attacks (the generic +
> specific to the clients business). Anyone have a
Hi All,
We are looking into a few different DDOS solutions for a client. We need a
LEGITIMATE company that can simulate some DDOS attacks (the generic +
specific to the clients business). Anyone have any recommendations?
Regards,
Dovid
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