t; Considering a full cabinet with 20kW in the US costs under $2k total I
> would say so.
>
> Aaron
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From "Tony Wicks"
> To "'Aaron Wendel'"
> Cc "'harbor235'" ; "'
If I remember my company's latest Frankfurt contract, that was a few
100€ for the racks but 10s of thousands € yearly for the energy (~7kw
per rack)
To me, today, datacenter colo business is just reselling energy.
Am 12.12.24 um 10:55 schrieb Elmar K. Bins:
nanog@nanog.org (Thomas Miesl
e with US (subsidized) energy prices,
which won't work. (Btw, household energy prices are way higher.)
NL is especially difficult b/c of the current grid weakness, hence the NRC
for this extremely energy-heavy setup.
El EL
> > Looking for colo space in Amsterdam, is it common to have to pay
.278€ per kWh is sort of a list price what they have to pay to the utility.
On top of that they run 20kW cooling equipment and 20kW UPS.
I have seen even higher prices in Frankfurt.
Am 11.12.24 um 19:45 schrieb harbor235:
Hi all,
Looking for colo space in Amsterdam, is it common to have to
a datacenter anymore)
On 11-12-2024 23:50, Riley O via NANOG wrote:
Yea, 0.15-30EUR is definitely higher than the US average, much higher than what
we pay.
Out here, colo spaces tend to charge ~1.5-2x the utility rate in the quote.
Mainly to factor in cooling, depending on their PUE.
Based
Yea, 0.15-30EUR is definitely higher than the US average, much higher than what
we pay.
Out here, colo spaces tend to charge ~1.5-2x the utility rate in the quote.
Mainly to factor in cooling, depending on their PUE.
Based on cost of power in the EU, the monthly seems fine, but the install
I don't understand how people stay in business paying $0.15/kWh. That's
crazy.
-- Original Message --
From "Riley O"
To "Aaron Wendel"
Cc "Tony Wicks" ; "NANOG list"
Date 12/11/2024 3:22:27 PM
Subject Re: Re[2]: COLO space in
To "'Aaron Wendel'"
> Cc "'harbor235'" ; "'NANOG list'"
> Date 12/11/2024 1:08:37 PM
> Subject RE: COLO space in EU
>
>
> > Yea, looks like whoever did that quote does not really want the business
>
e you have been quoted seems high and you can definitely
shop around.
On Wednesday, 11 December 2024 at 19:45, harbor235 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Looking for colo space in Amsterdam, is it common to have to pay for phase3
> power busbar and busbar, power supply, and tap off? Total c
Considering a full cabinet with 20kW in the US costs under $2k total I
would say so.
Aaron
-- Original Message --
From "Tony Wicks"
To "'Aaron Wendel'"
Cc "'harbor235'" ; "'NANOG list'"
Date 12/11/2024 1:0
Yea, looks like whoever did that quote does not really want the business and is
pricing it as such
From: NANOG On Behalf Of Aaron Wendel
Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2024 8:05 am
To: harbor235 ; NANOG list
Subject: Re: COLO space in EU
So they have a charge just to have the capacity
So they have a charge just to have the capacity present of 7000
euros/month and then .278 euros per KWh on top of that?
I wish I could get away with charging that.
Aaron
-- Original Message --
From "harbor235"
To "NANOG list"
Date 12/11/2024 12:45:52 PM
Subj
20kW is not an insignificant power requirement, I’m not surprised your
requirement is pricy.
From: NANOG On Behalf Of harbor235
Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2024 7:46 am
To: NANOG list
Subject: COLO space in EU
Hi all,
Looking for colo space in Amsterdam, is it common to have
Hi all,
Looking for colo space in Amsterdam, is it common to have to pay for phase3
power busbar and busbar, power supply, and tap off? Total costs for adding
3 phase plus testing etc . 136.000 Euros for NRCs and the following MRC:
The Service Fee for a 20kW deployment would be €350/kW
> On 6. Aug 2024, at 07:02, Tim Utschig wrote:
>
> Are there any providers of 1U personal colos these days?
>
> VMs are neat, but they lack the power to experiment with without
> paying an arm and a leg.
>
> I was lucky enough to have my 1U hosted by Dave Rand back in the
> day.
Satisfied cu
We own a tier 4 datacenter in the Denver area (Lakewood), and I do by-the-u
pricing. I have several 1/2U clients, most seem to be selfhosted stuff and
owncloud/media servers.
We're also super fiber rich with residential ISPs on site, so if you're in the
area that's a benefit. I'm happy to tak
If you want some personal colo, i have rackspace avail at 2 datacenters in the
SF Bay Area…
-Mike
> On Aug 6, 2024, at 08:28, Tim Utschig wrote:
>
> Are there any providers of 1U personal colos these days?
>
> VMs are neat, but they lack the power to experiment with without
Reply-To: Michael Spears
Date: Tuesday, August 6, 2024 at 8:53 AM
To:
Cc:
Subject: Re: Personal Colo 2024
I have a rack in Charlotte, NC that I sell some colo out of, mainly to friends
of mine but also open to hobbyists. Been doing it for a few years now. Feel
free to reach out off list if you
On 8/5/2024 10:02 PM, Tim Utschig wrote:
Are there any providers of 1U personal colos these days?
Not just personal but full-fledged business colo:
https://www.m5hosting.com/, with data centers in San Diego, Austin, and
Munich.
I've been using M5 Hosting for almost 20 years and find
Lots of people offer 1U colo. We don't but lots of people do.
Aaron
On 06.08.2024 00:02, Tim Utschig wrote:
Are there any providers of 1U personal colos these days?
VMs are neat, but they lack the power to experiment with without
paying an arm and a leg.
I was lucky enough to have
ty.
This is good advice, but let me add this: Keep an eye on your ISP... once
they've been sold to *not naming names, esp. those that end in x*, it tends to
get really dicey to get to your stuff. Big corps don't like other people's
legacy....
> We have several small Colo cust
Find a small ISP or WISP in your area. If you're not concerned with
Physical security, and mantraps with Ex-Special forces security. They
can probably find a spot to put your server, and will (should) have good
redundant connectivity.
We have several small Colo customers in our 20 Rac
910 Telecom in Denver CO offers 1U rack space.
Probably easiest to go to a NUG or NOG meeting in your area and ask around.
On Aug 6, 2024 10:30, Tim Utschig wrote:
Are there any providers of 1U personal colos these days?
VMs are neat, but they lack the power to experiment with without
paying an
I have a rack in Charlotte, NC that I sell some colo out of, mainly to friends
of mine but also open to hobbyists. Been doing it for a few years now. Feel
free to reach out off list if you want to discuss further.
On Tuesday, August 06, 2024 11:41 EDT, ja...@unlimitednet.us wrote:
Hi Tim
Hi Tim,
Is there a certain region you're looking for colo in? We offer colo in
Indianapolis (Midwest US) and we can probably accommodate you, but you
may be looking for West coast or somewhere else, etc.
Best Regards,
Jason
On 8/6/24 1:02 AM, Tim Utschig wrote:
Are there any provide
ave a virtualization platform on
dedicated hardware.
I used to operate a "4U" colo, VautledData.com, out of a former AT&T bunker, in
Yuma, AZ, but the demand just wasn't there so eventually we repurposed the site
as a satellite uplink with a tw
Are there any providers of 1U personal colos these days?
VMs are neat, but they lack the power to experiment with without
paying an arm and a leg.
I was lucky enough to have my 1U hosted by Dave Rand back in the
day.
Thanks.
--
Tim Utschig
408-644-3861 (mobile)
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From: "Tim Burke"
To: "Aaron Gould"
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 10:00:05 PM
Subject: Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN
I have been trying to get _away_ from caching appliances on our
many areas, space + power + port is cheaper than transport.-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe Brothers WISPFrom: "Tim Burke" To: "Aaron Gould" Cc: nanog@nanog.orgSent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 10:00:05 PMSubject: Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo C
Message -
From: "Tim Burke"
To: "Aaron Gould"
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 10:00:05 PM
Subject: Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN
I have been trying to get _away_ from caching appliances on our network — other
than Google, we are able to pick up most of the
Agreed ... it generally doesn't make sense to install caches where the
content is just a few racks over.
But if you have a network that serves smaller population centers where
CDNs are sparse or non-existent, then it gets the content closer to the
eyeballs and saves considerably on transport b
I have been trying to get _away_ from caching appliances on our network — other
than Google, we are able to pick up most of the stuff that otherwise would be
cacheable via private peering; so it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense for us
to have appliances in the datacenter taking up space, power,
install it and let it run. As more services opt to use them, they will have
more fill time as well though…
Dennis
From: NANOG On Behalf Of
Aaron Gould
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2024 6:01 PM
To: John Stitt ; Eric Dugas
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN
Thanks ... that
ers anywhere. Looks like
Cogent and Zayo for upstreams and only peer I see is AS1239
(Sprint Wireline (Cogent))
John Stitt
*From:*NANOG *On
Behalf Of *Aaron Gould
*Sent:* Thursday, April 4, 2024 4:36 PM
*To:* Eric Dugas
*Cc:* nanog@nanog.org
*Subject:* Re: Ne
It's free.
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Eric Dugas via NANOG"
To: "Aaron Gould"
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2024 4:12:38 PM
Subject: R
3471, but not really any peers anywhere. Looks like Cogent and Zayo for
> upstreams and only peer I see is AS1239 (Sprint Wireline (Cogent))
>
>
>
> John Stitt
>
>
>
> *From:* NANOG *On
> Behalf Of *Aaron Gould
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 4, 2024 4:36 PM
> *To:* E
Right now, Amazon Prime is sponsoring the
deployment of the caches. They deploy in your network and requests
from your IPs (v4 or v6) are redirected to your on-net caches. For
on-demand content, it's loaded nightly (as best they can predict)
and for live (like TN
peers anywhere. Looks like Cogent
and Zayo for upstreams and only peer I see is AS1239 (Sprint Wireline
(Cogent))
John Stitt
*From:*NANOG *On
Behalf Of *Aaron Gould
*Sent:* Thursday, April 4, 2024 4:36 PM
*To:* Eric Dugas
*Cc:* nanog@nanog.org
*Subject:* Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN
: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Netskrt - ISP-colo CDN
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Thanks... they told me it was free.
-Aaron
On 4/4/2024 4:12 PM, Eric Dugas wrote:
Thanks… and does anyone know the benefit of Netskrt for ISPs that already have native Amazon ACEv2 servers installed?AaronOn Apr 4, 2024, at 4:50 PM, Jesse DuPont wrote:
Right now, Amazon Prime is sponsoring the
deployment of the caches. They deploy in your network and re
Thanks... they told me it was free.
-Aaron
On 4/4/2024 4:12 PM, Eric Dugas wrote:
That name rang a bell so I looked up my emails.
They contacted me last year, they were claiming to be "working with
some of the major streaming brands, such as Amazon Prime Video, to
improve the quality of both
That name rang a bell so I looked up my emails.
They contacted me last year, they were claiming to be "working with some of
the major streaming brands, such as Amazon Prime Video, to improve the
quality of both VOD and live streaming while also reducing the load on ISP
networks such as your own.".
Anyone out there using Netskrt CDN? I mean, installed in your network
for content delivery to your customers. I understand Netskrt provides
caching for some well known online video streaming services... just
wondering if there are any network operators that have worked with
Netskrt and deploy
2019, 7:31 AM Phil Lavin wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for someone of a sales persuasion who sells small volume Colo
>> in Equinix LA1-LA4, SV1, SV5, SV10 and/or SG2. Can anyone who does this
>> please contact me off list?
>>
>> Thank you :)
>>
> --
Mehmet
+1-424-298-1903
I'm looking for the same + Equinix in San Jose
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 7:31 AM Phil Lavin wrote:
> I'm looking for someone of a sales persuasion who sells small volume Colo
> in Equinix LA1-LA4, SV1, SV5, SV10 and/or SG2. Can anyone who does this
> please contact me off list?
>
> Thank you :)
>
I'm looking for someone of a sales persuasion who sells small volume Colo in
Equinix LA1-LA4, SV1, SV5, SV10 and/or SG2. Can anyone who does this please
contact me off list?
Thank you :)
You might want to consider attending AfPIF in Mauritius 20-22 Aug
https://www.afpif.org/
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On 18/Jul/19 11:04, Denys Fedoryshchenko wrote:
> Africa, Russia...
>
> You can take as example Lebanon.
> Capital and major city in tiny country, ~40km away from each other,
> and only way you can get 2 points connected over microwaves(due
> mountains - several hops), over "licensed" providers
Africa, Russia...
You can take as example Lebanon.
Capital and major city in tiny country, ~40km away from each other, and
only way you can get 2 points connected over microwaves(due mountains -
several hops), over "licensed" providers, DSP, who hook this points for
$10-$30/mbps/month. And man
On 18/Jul/19 00:04, Rod Beck wrote:
> Circuits linking Asia & Europe via Siberia have proven highly
> unreliable. Repairs are long and difficult. And arguably Russia is a
> better case scenario than Africa. More politically stable. Better
> finances. Better basic infrastructure.
Wasn't aware R
half
of Mark Tinka
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 7:16 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Colo in Africa
On 17/Jul/19 17:04, Rod Beck wrote:
The cross continent connectivity is not going to be particularly reliable.
Prone to cuts due to wars and regional turmoil. And imagine how it takes to
re
On 17/Jul/19 17:04, Rod Beck wrote:
> The cross continent connectivity is not going to be particularly
> reliable. Prone to cuts due to wars and regional turmoil. And imagine
> how it takes to repair problems at the physical layer.
I think that view is too myopic... you make it sound like Namibi
:05 AM
To: Ken Gilmour ; nanog@nanog.org list
Subject: Re: Colo in Africa
Without being more specific on what geographic region you want to serve, in
terms of ISPs, it's hard to say.
For example:
If you look at submarine cable topology at layer 1, and BGP sessions, AS
adjacencies between
Ken,You can have useful information in AFNOG mailing list
(af...@afnog.org).--Gregoire Ehoumi-- Original message--From: Ken
GilmourDate: Tue, Jul 16, 2019 6:48 PMTo: C. A. Fillekes;Cc: North
Group;Subject:Re: Colo in AfricaWhat matters is whether or not we can get a
facility in Africa
Visit https://live.infrapedia.com and you can connect colo owners ,
capacity owners directly
On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 15:34 Ken Gilmour wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I work for a Security Analytics org and we're looking to build a small POP
> in Africa. I am pretty clueless about th
On 17/Jul/19 02:32, Joel M Snyder wrote:
>
> When a lot of people say "Africa," they really mean "South Africa"
> (the small country), and there is great connectivity there---but
> positioning yourself in South Africa doesn't really help you any more
> to get to Ghana (for example) than being
On 17/Jul/19 03:05, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
> Without being more specific on what geographic region you want to
> serve, in terms of ISPs, it's hard to say.
>
> For example:
>
> If you look at submarine cable topology at layer 1, and BGP sessions,
> AS adjacencies between ISPs: Freetown, Sierra Leon
On 17/Jul/19 02:32, Joel M Snyder wrote:
>
> When a lot of people say "Africa," they really mean "South Africa"
> (the small country), and there is great connectivity there---but
> positioning yourself in South Africa doesn't really help you any more
> to get to Ghana (for example) than being
On 17/Jul/19 00:57, Sina Owolabi wrote:
> If Nigeria is a possible location, you have a few, off the top of my
> head is any telco's colo (MTN, Airtel, Glo, or 9Mobile), and there's
> RackCentre, MainOne and I think IPNX for colo (virtual and bare
> metal).
My concern
I feel like I'm arguing with my teenager over why the WiFi is slow.
But cloud all of the things!!
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Seth Mattinen"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 6:45:35 PM
Subject: Re: Colo in Africa
o serving smaller numbers of larger files).
>2. Can't be cloud (need bare metal servers / colo). We use the full
>capacity of each server, all the time.
>3. Must have good connectivity to most of the rest of Africa
>4. We can initially only have one POP
>
Ken:
>Is there a good location where we could either rent bare metal servers
>(something like Internap - preferred) or colocate servers within
>Africa that can serve most of the region?
Africa is a tough nut to crack. I have been building networks there for
clients for decades and the first th
On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 15:54:10 -0600, Ken Gilmour said:
> We have a different use case to traditional analytics - We're aimed at
> consumers and small businesses, so instead of a SOC with one big screen
> refreshing 1 rows of only alert data every 30 seconds, we have
> thousands of individuals r
evant to the task at hand which is
finding a facility in Africa that does Bare Metal servers. I've had a
lot of helpful people, despite the naysayers.
I did find all of the "why not cloud" responses disappointing when you
asked for colo of servers. On this list I would assume s
TBs of data is not really that much data on average when you average it
over thousands of customers. The data is summarized, There are a ton of
other things happening in the background that I've already explained in the
thread and are really irrelevant to the task at hand which is finding a
facili
If Nigeria is a possible location, you have a few, off the top of my
head is any telco's colo (MTN, Airtel, Glo, or 9Mobile), and there's
RackCentre, MainOne and I think IPNX for colo (virtual and bare
metal).
On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 11:48 PM Ken Gilmour wrote:
>
> What matters i
What matters is whether or not we can get a facility in Africa to provide
service to our customers from Bare Metal Servers :)
On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 at 16:07, C. A. Fillekes wrote:
> Are they refreshing data they've already got, though?
> This is the classic use case for client-side caching.
>
> On
Are they refreshing data they've already got, though?
This is the classic use case for client-side caching.
On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 5:56 PM Ken Gilmour wrote:
> We have a different use case to traditional analytics - We're aimed at
> consumers and small businesses, so instead of a SOC with one b
We have a different use case to traditional analytics - We're aimed at
consumers and small businesses, so instead of a SOC with one big screen
refreshing 1 rows of only alert data every 30 seconds, we have
thousands of individuals refreshing all of their data every 30 seconds
because there are
right direction for research?
>
> The challenges:
>
>1. Network needs to be able to receive millions of small PPS (as
>opposed to serving smaller numbers of larger files).
>2. Can't be cloud (need bare metal servers / colo). We use the full
>capacity of eac
On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 11:13:45 -0700, Seth Mattinen said:
> On 7/16/19 10:53 AM, Akshay Kumar via NANOG wrote:
> > Then you are "doing it wrong(tm). Good luck.
>
>
> Are you saying that anyone choosing not to use "the cloud" is simply
> wrong because "cloud" is always right?
No, he's saying that if
On 7/16/19 10:53 AM, Akshay Kumar via NANOG wrote:
Then you are "doing it wrong(tm). Good luck.
Are you saying that anyone choosing not to use "the cloud" is simply
wrong because "cloud" is always right?
Gilmour
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I work for a Security Analytics org and we're looking to build a small
>>>>> POP in Africa. I am pretty clueless about the region so I was wondering if
>
[ there is an afnog mailing list which you might find useful ]
>3. Must have good connectivity to most of the rest of Africa
unfortunately, for common values of 'most' this is a long sad tragedy.
mark's excellent reccos can get you the fancy bits. inter-connectivity
with africa is sad.
rand
On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 10:39:59 -0600, Ken Gilmour said:
> These are actual real problems we face. thousands of customers load and
> reload TBs of data every few seconds on their dashboards.
If they're reloading TBs of data every few seconds, you really should have been
doing summaries during data i
On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 10:11:48 -0600, Ken Gilmour said:
> Speed is not the issue, it's IO. Also streaming 100Gbps of video is very
> different to streaming 100Gbps of files smaller than 100kb (average of
> about 30kb) the issue on the network level is the number of connections and
> CPU, on the serv
On 16/Jul/19 19:00, Ken Gilmour wrote:
>
> Our "market" is actually the US - but we're experiencing unexpected
> success across the world. A lot of our customers have selected
> "Africa" as their region when signing up and they are in various
> countries around Africa, they deserve to be served
On 16/Jul/19 18:23, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
>
>
> 100ms from most of the rest of Africa is going to be a bit dubious. If
> you draw a line horizontally through Senegal the costal stuff north of
> it can mostly be served in under 100ms from Europe.
>
> While cross border terrestrial fiber exists mos
st (Kenya) and South (South Africa).
> and:
> "Are there likely providers of solid colo aside from
> seacom/tinka-net or workonline/ben-net ?"
SEACOM and Workonline just do network.
For co-lo, we have solid operators in East and South:
* Teraco - https://www.teraco.co.
ive millions of small PPS (as
>opposed to serving smaller numbers of larger files).
>
>
> Depending on where in Africa you want to deploy, there will be a choice of
> service providers.
>
>
>
>1. Can't be cloud (need bare metal servers / colo). We use the full
>
: Re: Colo in Africa
Where, in Africa? It's not a small place...
On 16/Jul/19 17:08, Akshay Kumar via NANOG wrote:
> My bad. They announced that Oct 2018 so I figured they'd be close to
> it now. Yeah turns out it's mid 2020 :-(
I'd take all targets with a very large grain of salt. Experience has
shown that these things always take longer than planned... an
On 16/Jul/19 16:55, Akshay Kumar via NANOG wrote:
> The 2nd requirement seems artificial. The new hypervisors have come a
> long way and the overhead is minimal. Also you can run bare metal
> instances in AWS if you really need them with 100Gbps.
That said, there are various providers who can g
On 16/Jul/19 17:01, Phil Lavin wrote:
>
> They don't have a Region there at present - only an Edge location. I believe
> one is in the works for launch next year.
You're right (as of my updates from last November).
Mark.
opposed to serving smaller numbers of larger files).
>
Depending on where in Africa you want to deploy, there will be a choice
of service providers.
> 1. Can't be cloud (need bare metal servers / colo). We use the full
> capacity of each server, all the time.
>
This is possi
region so I was wondering if
>>>> you could help guide me in the right direction for research?
>>>>
>>>> The challenges:
>>>>
>>>>1. Network needs to be able to receive millions of small PPS (as
>>>>opposed to serving sm
t;
> The challenges:
> Network needs to be able to receive millions of small PPS (as opposed to
> serving smaller numbers of larger files).
> Can't be cloud (need bare metal servers / colo). We use the full capacity of
> each server, all the time.
> Must have good connectivity t
>>>
>>> The challenges:
>>>
>>>1. Network needs to be able to receive millions of small PPS (as
>>>opposed to serving smaller numbers of larger files).
>>>2. Can't be cloud (need bare metal servers / colo). We use the full
>
On 16/07/2019 16:08, Akshay Kumar via NANOG wrote:
> My bad. They announced that Oct 2018 so I figured they'd be close to it
> now. Yeah turns out it's mid 2020 :-(
>
> https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/in-the-works-aws-region-in-south-africa/
>
Azure does have regions in operation in South Afric
ion for research?
>
> The challenges:
> Network needs to be able to receive millions of small PPS (as opposed to
> serving smaller numbers of larger files).
> Can't be cloud (need bare metal servers / colo). We use the full capacity of
> each server, all the time.
> Must have
tion for research?
>>
>> The challenges:
>>
>>1. Network needs to be able to receive millions of small PPS (as
>>opposed to serving smaller numbers of larger files).
>>2. Can't be cloud (need bare metal servers / colo). We use the full
>>
gt; "Are there likely providers of solid colo aside from
> seacom/tinka-net or workonline/ben-net ?"
>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 11:12 AM Akshay Kumar via NANOG
> wrote:
> >
> > My bad. They announced that Oct 2018 so I figured they'd be close to it
> no
Thanks for all the replies! (really fast!)
The requirement for Bare Metal is very specific. Dealing with high speed
large files is very different to dealing with high volume small files. We
regularly encounter bottlenecks at the FSB and at the IO level. Even things
like RAID slows us down, so we h
: "Ken Gilmour"
Cc: "North Group"
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 9:55:12 AM
Subject: Re: Colo in Africa
The 2nd requirement seems artificial. The new hypervisors have come a long way
and the overhead is minimal. Also you can run bare metal instances in AWS if
you really
Isn't the OP really asking here (not to have their selection of
platform wrangled..):
"Where should I target my search: ZA only? is there anywhere else
worth dropping my request?"
and:
"Are there likely providers of solid colo aside from
seacom/tinka-net or workonline/ben
Thanks for chiming in but his reason for can't be cloud was, "We use the
full capacity of each server, all the time." That ain't good reason.
They do have baremetal servers like I pointed out. We use them when for
cases where we need access to perf counters.
On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 4:10 PM Bryan
My bad. They announced that Oct 2018 so I figured they'd be close to it
now. Yeah turns out it's mid 2020 :-(
https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/in-the-works-aws-region-in-south-africa/
On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 4:02 PM Chris Knipe wrote:
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> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 4:57 PM Akshay Kumar via NANOG
On 7/16/19 10:55 AM, Akshay Kumar via NANOG wrote:
> The 2nd requirement seems artificial. The new hypervisors have come a long
> way and the overhead is minimal. Also you can run bare metal instances in
> AWS if you really need them with 100Gbps.
Well the man wants bare metal, and while there's a
> just use the South Africa AWS region
They don't have a Region there at present - only an Edge location. I believe
one is in the works for launch next year.
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