Re: Best practice on TCP replies for ANY queries

2013-12-12 Thread Jared Mauch
On Dec 12, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Alain Hebert wrote: >The internet will be better without ISP refusing to apply BCP38. > > > >This is a pointless argument since the majority of the industry > prefer going after the UDP flood instead of > curbing the problem at its source once and for

Re: Best practice on TCP replies for ANY queries

2013-12-12 Thread Alain Hebert
The internet will be better without ISP refusing to apply BCP38. This is a pointless argument since the majority of the industry prefer going after the UDP flood instead of curbing the problem at its source once and for all. - Alain Hebertaheb...

Re: Best practice on TCP replies for ANY queries

2013-12-12 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Also: http://openresolverproject.org/ Also, open resolvers are harmful to the Internet, so it would not surprise me to see organizations to begin blocking any communication with them by published lists open recursive resolvers. - - ferg. On 12/12

Re: Best practice on TCP replies for ANY queries

2013-12-12 Thread SiNA Rabbani
http://www.team-cymru.org/Services/Resolvers/ The Internet will be a better place with less open resolvers around. --SiNA On Dec 12, 2013 5:32 AM, "Tony Finch" wrote: > Anurag Bhatia wrote: > > > > Now I see presence of some (legitimate) DNS forwarders and hence I don't > > wish to limit queri

Re: Best practice on TCP replies for ANY queries

2013-12-12 Thread Tony Finch
Anurag Bhatia wrote: > > Now I see presence of some (legitimate) DNS forwarders and hence I don't > wish to limit queries. You are going to have to change your mind about this one. Open recursive resolvers are a really bad idea, unless you can afford a lot of time and cleverness to manage the abu

Re: Best practice on TCP replies for ANY queries

2013-12-11 Thread Carlos Vicente
https://kb.isc.org/article/AA-01000 On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Arturo Servin wrote: > I think is better idea to rate-limit your responses rather than > limiting the size of them. > > AFAIK, bind has a way to do it. > > .as > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Anurag Bhatia > wrote: > >

Re: Best practice on TCP replies for ANY queries

2013-12-11 Thread Jared Mauch
dns-operations list is likely best suited for this question, but... If using BIND 9.9.4 you can set the system to use TCP for repeated queries to prevent spoofed ones from being replied to (ie: use yourself as an amplifier). There's lists of domains published that are used in abuse, eg: https:/

Re: Best practice on TCP replies for ANY queries

2013-12-11 Thread Carlos Vicente
If you are using BIND, take a look at: https://kb.isc.org/article/AA-01000 cv On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Anurag Bhatia wrote: > Hello everyone > > > I noticed some issues on one of DNS server I am managing. It was getting > queries for couple of attacking domains and server was replying

Re: Best practice on TCP replies for ANY queries

2013-12-11 Thread Anurag Bhatia
Hi Doug I am using PowerDNS recursor. On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Doug Barton wrote: > You don't mention what software you're using. If you're using BIND, ask > this question on bind-us...@isc.org. There is indeed a solution. > > Doug > > > > On 12/11/2013 10:06 AM, Anurag Bhatia wrote:

Re: Best practice on TCP replies for ANY queries

2013-12-11 Thread Doug Barton
You don't mention what software you're using. If you're using BIND, ask this question on bind-us...@isc.org. There is indeed a solution. Doug On 12/11/2013 10:06 AM, Anurag Bhatia wrote: Hello everyone I noticed some issues on one of DNS server I am managing.

Re: Best practice on TCP replies for ANY queries

2013-12-11 Thread Arturo Servin
I think is better idea to rate-limit your responses rather than limiting the size of them. AFAIK, bind has a way to do it. .as On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Anurag Bhatia wrote: > Hi ML > > > > Yeah I can understand. Even DNSSEC will have issues with it which makes me > worry about rule eve

Re: Best practice on TCP replies for ANY queries

2013-12-11 Thread Anurag Bhatia
Hi ML Yeah I can understand. Even DNSSEC will have issues with it which makes me worry about rule even today. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 11:49 PM, ML wrote: > On 12/11/2013 1:06 PM, Anurag Bhatia wrote: > > > > I am sure I am not first person experiencing this issue. Curious to hear > > how you

Re: Best practice on TCP replies for ANY queries

2013-12-11 Thread ML
On 12/11/2013 1:06 PM, Anurag Bhatia wrote: > > I am sure I am not first person experiencing this issue. Curious to hear > how you are managing it. Also under what circumstances I can get a > legitimate TCP query on port 53 whose reply exceeds a basic limit of less > then 1000 bytes? > > > I'm not

Best practice on TCP replies for ANY queries

2013-12-11 Thread Anurag Bhatia
Hello everyone I noticed some issues on one of DNS server I am managing. It was getting queries for couple of attacking domains and server was replying in TCP with 3700 bytes releasing very heavy packets. Now I see presence of some (legitimate) DNS forwarders and hence I don't wish to limit queri