Re: BGP AFI or SAFI for advertising BFD status

2024-12-23 Thread Jason Iannone
Is this a bgp-ls solution to an snmp trap problem? Why can oss do this notification? Are we turning bgp into nms? On Sat, Dec 21, 2024, 7:41 PM Douglas Fischer wrote: > I'm looking for a way to propagate the status of BFD sessions running on > one router to another via BGP. > > Considering the v

Re: BGP AFI or SAFI for advertising BFD status

2024-12-23 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Bill, > I'm missing something. > > Wouldn't the route server send withdrawals and updates to the rest of > the participants as soon as its hold timer with the lost router > expires? > I believe the case here is about a situation where peers can talk to RS just fine (no bgp session goes down)

Re: BGP AFI or SAFI for advertising BFD status

2024-12-22 Thread William Herrin
On Sun, Dec 22, 2024 at 4:15 AM Nick Hilliard wrote: > There are two main target situations: firstly, when a router unexpectedly > drops off an ixp platform, this won't be explicitly signaled to the other > routers > on the fabric, which can mean that packets to that device will be black-holed >

Re: BGP AFI or SAFI for advertising BFD status

2024-12-22 Thread Robert Raszuk
All, This thread touches on day one bgp architecture bug where the BGP spec is too vague on what should be considered as valid next hop. Most implementations today go as far as checking if the next hop can be resolved in RIB and if so consider the path as valid and eligible for best path selectio

Re: BGP AFI or SAFI for advertising BFD status

2024-12-22 Thread Mark Tinka
On 12/22/24 14:15, Nick Hilliard wrote: As a separate issue, hold timers should generally be of a comparable order of magnitude to the non-availability effect they're attempting to mitigate. Inter-domain routing convergence is often measured in minutes rather than seconds. So even if the p

Re: BGP AFI or SAFI for advertising BFD status

2024-12-22 Thread Nick Hilliard
Tom Beecher wrote on 22/12/2024 02:51: Definitely will be interesting to read the list discussion about this. My first reaction was why would you even need this, so def curious. There are two main target situations: firstly, when a router unexpectedly drops off an ixp platform, this won't be e

Re: BGP AFI or SAFI for advertising BFD status

2024-12-21 Thread Tom Beecher
Definitely will be interesting to read the list discussion about this. My first reaction was why would you even need this, so def curious. On Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at 8:25 PM Nick Hilliard wrote: > Douglas Fischer wrote on 22/12/2024 00:29: > > Does any colleague have any clue about BFD session stat

Re: BGP AFI or SAFI for advertising BFD status

2024-12-21 Thread Douglas Fischer
Uu that's sounds great! Exactly what I was wondering. Create a VRF called BFD-RouteServer on each PE, on that VRF on each PE activate the IPs of Route-Server, and activate de BFD Sessions with the participants connected to that PE. And then, add a PBR deviation of BFD coming from participants

Re: BGP AFI or SAFI for advertising BFD status

2024-12-21 Thread Nick Hilliard
Douglas Fischer wrote on 22/12/2024 00:29: Does any colleague have any clue about BFD session status propagation over BGP? this internet draft discusses the problem space https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-rs-bfd/ Unfortunately there are no known implementations of the protocol.

BGP AFI or SAFI for advertising BFD status

2024-12-21 Thread Douglas Fischer
I'm looking for a way to propagate the status of BFD sessions running on one router to another via BGP. Considering the versatility of BGP, I'm sure this is possible. But when researching BFD and BGP, my biggest difficulty was avoiding documents that talk about how to use BFD as a trigger for det