Carrier oem churn (turnover /agitation cycles)
First mover for features happen and leapfrog but the ones that matter get
adopted across the line in time.
> On May 7, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>
> What churn rates are you talking about?
>
> Josh Reynolds
> CIO, SPITwSPOTS
> www.
LOL :)
On May 7, 2015 9:38:15 AM AKDT, Rob Seastrom wrote:
>
>More like "at least be willing to man up and learn your way around
>some platform other than RHEL without whining if there is a business
>need for it".
>
>-r
>
>Josh Reynolds writes:
>
>> *grumble, grumble, grumble*
>> "Get off my law
More like "at least be willing to man up and learn your way around
some platform other than RHEL without whining if there is a business
need for it".
-r
Josh Reynolds writes:
> *grumble, grumble, grumble*
> "Get off my lawn!"
> :)
>
>
> On May 7, 2015 8:49:43 AM AKDT, Rob Seastrom wrote:
>
>
You know where these people wouldn't fit? W/ISPs.
Every three years or so you are forklifting the majority of your wireless PtMP
for either a new series or a totally different vendor. New backhaul vendors
often. You're building AC and DC power plants. You likely touch Cisco, juniper,
HP, mikrot
we do "cry" when we interview people that claim to have "advanced
knowledge" of BGP and we ask them some very basic BGP questions, and we get
a blank stare.
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Rob Seastrom wrote:
>
> Josh Reynolds writes:
>
> > It really bothers me to see that people in this i
*grumble, grumble, grumble*
"Get off my lawn!"
:)
On May 7, 2015 8:49:43 AM AKDT, Rob Seastrom wrote:
>
>Josh Reynolds writes:
>
>> It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so
>> worried about a change of syntax or terminology. If there's one
>> thing about the big vendors
> It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so worried about
> a change of syntax or terminology. If there's one thing about the big
> vendors that bothers me, it's that these batteries of vendor specific tests
> have allowed many "techs" to get lazy. They simply can't seem to op
Josh Reynolds writes:
> It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so
> worried about a change of syntax or terminology. If there's one
> thing about the big vendors that bothers me, it's that these
> batteries of vendor specific tests have allowed many "techs" to get
> lazy. T
It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so worried about a
change of syntax or terminology. If there's one thing about the big vendors
that bothers me, it's that these batteries of vendor specific tests have
allowed many "techs" to get lazy. They simply can't seem to operate
And if you ever need to find out what can commands exist for a certain
string "xxx"
tree flat detail | match xxx
is a huge helper when learning.
e.g.
A:router# tree flat detail | match aspath-regex
show router bgp routes [ [type ]] aspath-regex
show router bgp routes [ []] aspath-regex
On Th
yep.. its way easier and faster to take a look at what is configured:
A:R01>config>service>vprn# interface "to-what-ever-eBGP"
A:R01>config>service>vprn>if# info
--
description "L3 Ckt ID: "
enable-ingress-stat
> On May 6, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Colton Conor wrote:
>
> I am worried as most tech's know Cisco and Juniper, so going to ALU would
> be a learning curve based on replies I am getting off list.
It’s not that hard to learn if you know the basics of IP routing. I just did
an implementation of A-L 7
co or Juniper. They have tab
and ? completion now for both commands as well as elements similar to Junos
which is helpful.
Phil
-Original Message-
From: "Bob Evans"
Sent: 5/6/2015 11:55 PM
To: "nanog@nanog.org"
Subject: Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)
are all standard stuff and interoperate with everything else.
Phil
-Original Message-
From: Colton Conor
Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 17:48
To: NANOG
Subject: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)
>I was wondering if anyone was using a Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router
>(
> I am worried as most tech's know Cisco and Juniper, so going to ALU would
> be a learning curve based on replies I am getting off list.
It's definitely quite different from the CLI. I'm still dabbling, but the guys
here who have been through the training and are immersed in it really like it.
Phil
-Original Message-
From: "Bob Evans"
Sent: 5/6/2015 11:55 PM
To: "nanog@nanog.org"
Subject: Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)
I will be getting one to try. I am pretty sure it will support the ol'
"show ? ,config ?" If not
6, 2015, at 6:00 PM, Colton Conor
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Taking full BGP routes from 4+ carriers on 10G connections. Why is ALU
> >>>> never mentioned, but Juniper MX and Cisco are all day long?
> >>>>
> >>>> The new 7750 SR-a4 looks like a Juniper MX80 or MX104 killer.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Dan Snyder
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> We have been using them for almost 8 years now and have been pretty
> >>>>> happy. What are you looking to use them for?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On May 6, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Colton Conor
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I was wondering if anyone was using a Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service
> >>>>> Router
> >>>>>> (SR) in their network? How does this platform compare the the Cisco
> >>> ASR,
> >>>>>> Brocade MLXe, and Juniper MX line?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
>
>
>
outes from 4+ carriers on 10G connections. Why is ALU
>>>> never mentioned, but Juniper MX and Cisco are all day long?
>>>>
>>>> The new 7750 SR-a4 looks like a Juniper MX80 or MX104 killer.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Dan Snyder
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We have been using them for almost 8 years now and have been pretty
>>>>> happy. What are you looking to use them for?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 6, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Colton Conor
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was wondering if anyone was using a Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service
>>>>> Router
>>>>>> (SR) in their network? How does this platform compare the the Cisco
>>> ASR,
>>>>>> Brocade MLXe, and Juniper MX line?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
PM, Colton Conor
wrote:
I was wondering if anyone was using a Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service
Router
(SR) in their network? How does this platform compare the the Cisco
ASR,
Brocade MLXe, and Juniper MX line?
now and have been pretty
> >> happy. What are you looking to use them for?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> > On May 6, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Colton Conor
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I was wondering if anyone was using a Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service
> >> Router
> >> > (SR) in their network? How does this platform compare the the Cisco
> ASR,
> >> > Brocade MLXe, and Juniper MX line?
> >>
> >
> >
>
4:58 PM, Dan Snyder wrote:
>
>> We have been using them for almost 8 years now and have been pretty
>> happy. What are you looking to use them for?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On May 6, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Colton Conor
>> wrote:
>> >
, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Colton Conor wrote:
>> >
>> > I was wondering if anyone was using a Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router
>> > (SR) in their network? How does this platform compare the the Cisco ASR,
>> > Brocade MLXe, and Juniper MX line?
>
--- colton.co...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Colton Conor
Why is ALU never mentioned, but Juniper MX
and Cisco are all day long?
-
Because they're really expensive, mostly bell
head networks use them and we're mostly bell
head free on NANOG... >;-)
scott
> On May 6, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Colton Conor wrote:
>
> I was wondering if anyone was using a
> Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router> (SR)
> in their network? How does this platform
> compare the the Cisco ASR, Brocade MLXe,
> and Juniper MX line?
-
now and have been pretty happy.
> What are you looking to use them for?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 6, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Colton Conor wrote:
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone was using a Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router
> > (SR) in their network? How d
We have been using them for almost 8 years now and have been pretty happy. What
are you looking to use them for?
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 6, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Colton Conor wrote:
>
> I was wondering if anyone was using a Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router
> (SR) in their
I was wondering if anyone was using a Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router
(SR) in their network? How does this platform compare the the Cisco ASR,
Brocade MLXe, and Juniper MX line?
a fiber of 17.6 Tbps with 44
wavelengths which is roughly the whole 100GHz spaced grid
Well, if you click through to his earlier piece, at
http://newswire.telecomramblings.com/2013/02/france-telecom-orange-and-alcatel-lucent-deploy-worlds-first-live-400-gbps-per-wavelength-optical-link/
he does
; wavelengths which is roughly the whole 100GHz spaced grid
Well, if you click through to his earlier piece, at
http://newswire.telecomramblings.com/2013/02/france-telecom-orange-and-alcatel-lucent-deploy-worlds-first-live-400-gbps-per-wavelength-optical-link/
he does explicitly say "400Gb/s
ssage-
From: Jay Ashworth [mailto:j...@baylink.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 7:04 PM
To: NANOG
Subject: Alcatel-Lucent and France Tel deploy 400G for testing
http://www.telecomramblings.com/2013/02/alcatel-lucent-and-france-telecom-surpass-100g-implement-400g/
--
Jay R. Ash
http://www.telecomramblings.com/2013/02/alcatel-lucent-and-france-telecom-surpass-100g-implement-400g/
--
Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates
I've done some recent testing and while the BGP download time isn't blazing
fast, it can load 400k routes and propagate them to 20 other peers in a few
minutes. Certainly not 2 hours. :) I've also done quite a bit of interop
testing with the other main vendors as well and have yet to run into
The worst thing in it was bgp proto .. Router was unable to withstand
20+ peering sessions , most of that outgoing bgp session to customers
, a few peerings , and only 1v2 incoming upstream providers
When there was instability/surge in bgp updates , router was able to
break itself tcp sess. Dw
Chris Wallace wrote:
I am hoping to get some peoples opinions on Alcatel-Lucent routers. We are
looking at the 7750 SR line and the 7450 ESS line. We are currently a Cisco
shop but these would be deployed in a completely new network delivering mostly
MPLS based services and DIA. Any
--- jrh...@netconsonance.com wrote:
So my experience so far has been good product, good company, needs a real
attitude adjustment in the support department.
-
ditto that!
scott
On Mar 4, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Chris Wallace wrote:
> I am hoping to get some peoples opinions on Alcatel-Lucent routers. We are
> looking at the 7750 SR line and the 7450 ESS line. We are currently a Cisco
> shop but these would be deployed in a completely new network delivering
>
--- mirot...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll have to second everything everyone is saying. Absolutely pleased
with everything about them. Just wish I had more 7750s instead of
7450s.
--
That reminds me of one thing that adds more complexity. We carry our int
;> --- li...@iamchriswallace.com wrote:
>> I am hoping to get some peoples opinions on Alcatel-Lucent routers. We
>> are looking at the 7750 SR line and the 7450 ESS line. We are currently a
>> Cisco shop but these would be deployed in a completely new network
>&g
, "Scott Weeks"
wrote:
--- li...@iamchriswallace.com wrote:
I am hoping to get some peoples opinions on Alcatel-Lucent routers.
We are looking at the 7750 SR line and the 7450 ESS line. We are
currently a Cisco shop but these would be deployed in a completely
new network
--- li...@iamchriswallace.com wrote:
I am hoping to get some peoples opinions on Alcatel-Lucent routers. We are
looking at the 7750 SR line and the 7450 ESS line. We are currently a Cisco
shop but these would be deployed in a completely new network delivering mostly
MPLS based services and
--- li...@iamchriswallace.com wrote:
I am hoping to get some peoples opinions on Alcatel-Lucent routers. We are
looking at the 7750 SR line and the 7450 ESS line. We are currently a Cisco
shop but these would be deployed in a completely new network delivering mostly
MPLS based services and
:
I am hoping to get some peoples opinions on Alcatel-Lucent routers.
We are looking at the 7750 SR line and the 7450 ESS line. We are
currently a Cisco shop but these would be deployed in a completely
new network delivering mostly MPLS based services and DIA. Any
comments are welcome
I am hoping to get some peoples opinions on Alcatel-Lucent routers. We are
looking at the 7750 SR line and the 7450 ESS line. We are currently a Cisco
shop but these would be deployed in a completely new network delivering mostly
MPLS based services and DIA. Any comments are welcome, good
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Justin M. Streiner
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Jay Nakamura wrote:
Looking for input on Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick. I can look up
spec and other published information but, as always, the devil is in
the
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Justin M. Streiner
wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Jay Nakamura wrote:
>
>> Looking for input on Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick. I can look up
>> spec and other published information but, as always, the devil is in
>> the detail and
gly java interface
Really good feedbacks to provide .
If you need further detail I can share.
Eric
-Message d'origine-
De : Jay Nakamura [mailto:zeusda...@gmail.com]
Envoyé : lundi 26 octobre 2009 16:56
À : NANOG
Objet : Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick
Hello all,
Looking for inp
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Jay Nakamura wrote:
Looking for input on Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick. I can look up
spec and other published information but, as always, the devil is in
the detail and you just never know what wall you run into until you
actually try it so I wanted to see if anyone
Hello all,
Looking for input on Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick. I can look up
spec and other published information but, as always, the devil is in
the detail and you just never know what wall you run into until you
actually try it so I wanted to see if anyone has used this and can
point out
By the way, to add some IPv6 technical noise:
Have you ever tried to set up MD5 auth. in a BGP over IPv6 session between an
Alcatel
7750SR and a Cisco 6500... I keep getting a log message (Cisco) exposing some
issue with
the MD5 digest from the Alcatel.
The funny thing is that Cisco <---> Cisc
> Hopefully... ;-)
Not likely! This is a motley crew of people who like to jabber,
not a forum for your favorite vendor's customer support.
> I want to be able to carry IPv6 in a VPRN without having to
> pay an order of magnitude more for an IOM.
May I suggest that you will make much more im
.2008 04:59
À: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Re: [NANOG] Alcatel-Lucent
To run IPV6 on a 7750 you will need the new IOM 2 cards. They do cost a few
$$$ more...
-Original Message-
From: Scott Weeks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subjec
To run IPV6 on a 7750 you will need the new IOM 2 cards. They do cost a few
$$$ more...
-Original Message-
From: Scott Weeks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [NANOG] Alcatel-Lucent
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Nathan Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Ask for a v6 roadmap. Last time I looked (~ a year ago) there were
some strange limitations, for example, a surprisingly small max v6
routing table.
---
Hopefully... ;-)
I want to be able
nted. I.e. on a traditional
box, you configure a bunch of parameters all over the place, and a
certain service pops out. With these Alcatel-Lucent boxes, you
configure a service, and the parameters are implied somewhat.
Interop is fine, but you'll find that many of the knobs are called
differ
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