Re: AT&T MPLS / BIB Routers

2011-02-17 Thread Mikeal Clark
>> Ryan >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Mikeal Clark [mailto:mikeal.cl...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:16 PM >> To: Jim Gettys >> Cc: nanog@nanog.org >> Subject: Re: AT&T MPLS / BIB Routers >> >

Re: AT&T MPLS / BIB Routers

2011-02-17 Thread Mikeal Clark
gt; > > -Original Message- > From: Mikeal Clark [mailto:mikeal.cl...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:16 PM > To: Jim Gettys > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: AT&T MPLS / BIB Routers > > I'm building up to 3000-4000ms latency with these

RE: AT&T MPLS / BIB Routers

2011-02-17 Thread Ryan Finnesey
What type of hardware are they using for this BIB router? Cheers Ryan -Original Message- From: Mikeal Clark [mailto:mikeal.cl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:16 PM To: Jim Gettys Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: AT&T MPLS / BIB Routers I'm building up to 30

Re: AT&T MPLS / BIB Routers

2011-02-17 Thread Jim Gettys
On 02/17/2011 01:02 AM, George Bonser wrote: From: Mikeal Clark Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 3:16 PM To: Jim Gettys Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: AT&T MPLS / BIB Routers I'm building up to 3000-4000ms latency with these BIB routers. We never had this issue on the old

RE: AT&T MPLS / BIB Routers

2011-02-16 Thread George Bonser
> From: Mikeal Clark > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 3:16 PM > To: Jim Gettys > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: AT&T MPLS / BIB Routers > > I'm building up to 3000-4000ms latency with these BIB routers. We > never had > this issue on the

Re: AT&T MPLS / BIB Routers

2011-02-16 Thread Jim Gettys
On 02/16/2011 06:16 PM, Mikeal Clark wrote: I'm building up to 3000-4000ms latency with these BIB routers. We never had this issue on the old point to points using Cisco gear. Bufferbloat is getting more and more common, as memory has gotten cheaper, and braindead people claim that 0 packet l

Re: AT&T MPLS / BIB Routers

2011-02-16 Thread Mikeal Clark
I'm building up to 3000-4000ms latency with these BIB routers. We never had this issue on the old point to points using Cisco gear. On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Jim Gettys wrote: > On 02/16/2011 05:44 PM, Mikeal Clark wrote: > >> We just put in a AT&T MPLS and are having a pretty negative e

Re: AT&T MPLS / BIB Routers

2011-02-16 Thread Jim Gettys
On 02/16/2011 05:44 PM, Mikeal Clark wrote: We just put in a AT&T MPLS and are having a pretty negative experience with the "Business in a Box" routers they are using for our smaller sites. We are seeing extremely high latency under load. Anyone have any experience with these devices that could

AT&T MPLS / BIB Routers

2011-02-16 Thread Mikeal Clark
We just put in a AT&T MPLS and are having a pretty negative experience with the "Business in a Box" routers they are using for our smaller sites. We are seeing extremely high latency under load. Anyone have any experience with these devices that could shed some light on this? Are they really thi