Re: ARIN customers / members (was: Re: questions about ARIN ipv6 allocation)

2021-12-10 Thread John Curran
On 9 Dec 2021, at 1:57 PM, Randy Bush mailto:ra...@psg.com>> wrote: ... as i do not follow arin news, i found this even more interesting The situation for ARIN’s IPv4/IPv6 customers will change in January, when all customers with IPv4 and/or IPv6 number resources will pay on the same fee table fo

Re: ARIN customers / members (was: Re: questions about ARIN ipv6 allocation)

2021-12-10 Thread John Curran
On 9 Dec 2021, at 12:44 PM, heasley mailto:h...@shrubbery.net>> wrote: ... So, fees will be reduced, given all this new income? The existing 7500 ISP customers fees are unchanged. For the more than 8000 end-users customers, the fee structure change means they will now pay the same fees as ISPs

Re: ARIN customers / members (was: Re: questions about ARIN ipv6 allocation)

2021-12-09 Thread Randy Bush
hi joh, thanks for numbers in the shape i remember them. my only comment would be a nit > 15250 Legacy non-contracted (receiving services w/o fee or agreement / Not > Members) ^ some as i do not follow arin news, i found this even more interesting > The

Re: ARIN customers / members (was: Re: questions about ARIN ipv6 allocation)

2021-12-09 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 4:52 AM John Curran wrote: > In a month (January 2022) it will become - > > 16000 ARIN IPv4/IPv6 customers (i.e. services under an RSA and with > membership rights) > 15250 Legacy non-contracted (receiving services w/o fee or agreement / > Not Members) > > There

Re: ARIN customers / members (was: Re: questions about ARIN ipv6 allocation)

2021-12-09 Thread heasley
Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 12:52:45PM +, John Curran: > So we’re approximately here at the beginning of December 2021 - > >7500 ISPs (i.e. services under an RSA / Members) >8500 End-users (i.e. services under an RSA / Not Members Today) > 15250 Legacy non-contracted (receiving

Re: ARIN customers / members (was: Re: questions about ARIN ipv6 allocation)

2021-12-09 Thread John Curran
On 9 Dec 2021, at 7:55 AM, William Herrin mailto:b...@herrin.us>> wrote: On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 3:35 AM John Curran mailto:jcur...@arin.net>> wrote: So we’re approximately here at the beginning of December 2021 - 7500 ISPs (i.e. services under an RSA / Members) 8500 End-users (i.

Re: ARIN customers / members (was: Re: questions about ARIN ipv6 allocation)

2021-12-09 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 3:35 AM John Curran wrote: > So we’re approximately here at the beginning of December 2021 - > > 7500 ISPs (i.e. services under an RSA / Members) > 8500 End-users (i.e. services under an RSA / Not Members Today) > 15250 Legacy non-contracted (receiving

ARIN customers / members (was: Re: questions about ARIN ipv6 allocation)

2021-12-09 Thread John Curran
On 8 Dec 2021, at 1:47 PM, Randy Bush mailto:ra...@psg.com>> wrote: hi john While that was inevitable at ARIN’s inception and continued for many years, it is not currently the case that there are more legacy customers than paying customers i am easily confused. so just to keep my nouns the sa