Re: 600,000 routers bricked

2024-06-04 Thread John Levine
It appears that Robert Jacobs said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >If you do a bit more digging the ISP is not Lumen ... It is a well known ISP It's Windstream. and I recall reading about this >outage when it happened. I don’t know if indeed this was a botched attempt to >gather a bot network or like >some

RE: 600,000 routers bricked

2024-06-03 Thread Robert Jacobs
, please notify me by telephone or e-mail immediately. -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Christopher Morrow Sent: Monday, June 3, 2024 1:04 PM To: Matt Erculiani Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: 600,000 routers bricked CAUTION: External Email. Do not click links or open attachments

Re: 600,000 routers bricked

2024-06-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 1:40 PM Matt Erculiani wrote: > > It's important to note though that if you quietly (or even publicly) patch > 600k devices to fix a bug, nobody cares. Plus, doing so is still a crime: > it's 600k instances of accessing a computer system without permission. It's > also fa

Re: 600,000 routers bricked

2024-06-03 Thread Matt Erculiani
It's important to note though that if you quietly (or even publicly) patch 600k devices to fix a bug, nobody cares. Plus, doing so is still a crime: it's 600k instances of accessing a computer system without permission. It's also far, FAR easier to write a stream of 0s to the bootloader than it is

Re: 600,000 routers bricked

2024-06-03 Thread Matthew Petach
I'm sorry, but if you have the wherewithal to commandeer 600,000 devices well enough to permanantly brick them, you have the wherewithal to commandeer them and load a patched version of software on them closing up the vulnerability. If there's no fixed version of software available for the platfor

Re: 600,000 routers bricked

2024-06-03 Thread Tom Beecher
answers all of your > concerns. Further, they remark that this was an especially sophisticated > infection, that hid its tracks well. > > > > Lee > > > > *From:* NANOG *On > Behalf Of *Tom Beecher > *Sent:* Sunday, June 2, 2024 4:23 PM > *To:* Dave Taht > *Cc

RE: 600,000 routers bricked

2024-06-03 Thread Howard, Lee via NANOG
On Behalf Of Tom Beecher Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 4:23 PM To: Dave Taht Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: 600,000 routers bricked This message is from an EXTERNAL SENDER - be CAUTIOUS, particularly with links and attachments. That post from Mr. Perens about this is honestly really shitty. 1. Is he

Re: 600,000 routers bricked

2024-06-03 Thread Alan Buxey
let's hope that this action didn't harm anyone - particularly a vulnerable person who might have an emergency system using IP to send alerts On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 at 01:22, Josh Luthman wrote: > > >And then when it became clear that the issue wasn't being addressed, they > >forcibly turned off thos

Re: 600,000 routers bricked

2024-06-02 Thread Tom Beecher
That post from Mr. Perens about this is honestly really shitty. 1. Is he right that Lumen has to shoulder blame for not keeping CPE updated with exploit free software? Certainly. 2. Making a claim that all 600k of these routers were being used as botnet zombies without any supporting evidence is r

Re: 600,000 routers bricked

2024-06-02 Thread Dave Taht
After reading the actual report, I think bruce is making assumptions about the attackers' motivations that may or may not be the case. https://blog.lumen.com/the-pumpkin-eclipse/ Still, 600k routers gone in 72 hours is quite a lot. If they were also being actively used in a botnet, good riddance

Re: 600,000 routers bricked

2024-06-02 Thread Josh Luthman
>And then when it became clear that the issue wasn't being addressed, they forcibly turned off those 600,000 routers. I am finding it difficult not to applaud that action. The concern is that someone would shut off the routers or compromise them, so they compromised and shut them off? On Sun, Jun

600,000 routers bricked

2024-06-02 Thread Dave Taht
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/60-families-using-one-internet-provider-have-routers-bruce-perens-geedc/ -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVFWSyMp3xg&t=1098s Waves Podcast Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos