Re: Solar Flux (was: Re: China prefix hijack)

2010-04-11 Thread Andy Koch
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 16:06, Joe wrote: > > >        The topic of sunspots is certainly familiar from long ago. We had a > 7513 > that crashed unexpectedly, upon a review of the data available, it was > determined > that a parity error had occurred. I can't remember the exact error as it was > s

RE: Solar Flux (was: Re: China prefix hijack)

2010-04-11 Thread Joe
The topic of sunspots is certainly familiar from long ago. We had a 7513 that crashed unexpectedly, upon a review of the data available, it was determined that a parity error had occurred. I can't remember the exact error as it was several years ago, but upon a quick search this article

Re: Solar Flux (was: Re: China prefix hijack)

2010-04-11 Thread Warren Bailey
ing my GCI BlackBerry - Original Message - From: Leigh Porter To: Warren Bailey; valdis.kletni...@vt.edu ; wavetos...@googlemail.com Cc: vi...@isc.org ; r...@seastrom.com ; na...@merit.edu Sent: Sun Apr 11 12:39:39 2010 Subject: Re: Solar Flux (was: Re: China prefix hijack) There is a guy

Re: Solar Flux (was: Re: China prefix hijack)

2010-04-11 Thread Leigh Porter
; Robert E. Seastrom ; na...@merit.edu Sent: Sun Apr 11 08:36:05 2010 Subject: Re: Solar Flux (was: Re: China prefix hijack) On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:58:40 BST, Michael Dillon said: > Would a Faraday cage be sufficient to protect against cosmic ray bit-flipping > and how could you retrofit a F

Re: Solar Flux (was: Re: China prefix hijack)

2010-04-11 Thread Warren Bailey
2010 Subject: Re: Solar Flux (was: Re: China prefix hijack) On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:58:40 BST, Michael Dillon said: > Would a Faraday cage be sufficient to protect against cosmic ray bit-flipping > and how could you retrofit a Faraday cage onto a rack or two of gear? Scientists build ne

Re: Solar Flux (was: Re: China prefix hijack)

2010-04-11 Thread Scott Howard
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 7:07 AM, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: > We've seen great increases in CPU and memory speeds as well as disk > densities since the last maximum (March 2000). Speccing ECC memory is > a reasonable start, but this sort of thing has been a problem in the > past (anyone remember

Re: Solar Flux (was: Re: China prefix hijack)

2010-04-11 Thread Micheal Patterson
lock on it, the odds of its random noise being something decipherable are much more acceptable than normal. - Original Message - From: "Robert E. Seastrom" To: "Paul Vixie" Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 9:07 AM Subject: Solar Flux (was: Re: China pref

Re: Solar Flux (was: Re: China prefix hijack)

2010-04-11 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:58:40 BST, Michael Dillon said: > Would a Faraday cage be sufficient to protect against cosmic ray bit-flipping > and how could you retrofit a Faraday cage onto a rack or two of gear? Scientists build neutrino detectors in mines 8,000 feet underground because that much rock

Re: Solar Flux (was: Re: China prefix hijack)

2010-04-11 Thread Michael Dillon
> That is likely to be an increasing problem in upcoming months/years. > Solar cycle 24 started in August '09; we're ramping up on the way out > of a more serious than usual sunspot minimum. I wonder what kind of buildings are less susceptible to these kinds of problems. And is there a good way to

Solar Flux (was: Re: China prefix hijack)

2010-04-11 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Paul Vixie writes: > i'm more inclined to blame the heavy solar wind this month and to assume > that chinanet's routers don't use ECC on the RAM containing their RIBs and > that chinanet's router jockeys are in quite a sweat about this bad publicity. > -- > Paul Vixie > KI6YSY That is likely t

Re: China prefix hijack

2010-04-09 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Apr 10, 2010, at 12:17 AM, Paul Vixie wrote: > are we all freaking out especially much because this is coming from china > today, and we suppose there must be some kind of geopolitical intent because > china-vs-google's been in the news a lot today? There's been a fair amount of speculation

Re: China prefix hijack

2010-04-09 Thread Paul Vixie
"Martin A. Brown" writes: > Just a note of confirmation that 23724 originated as many as 31847 > prefixes during an 18 minute window starting around 15:54 UTC. > They were prepending their own AS, and this is several orders of > magnitude more prefixes than they normally originate. a couple

Re: China prefix hijack

2010-04-08 Thread Andree Toonk
Hi Jul, list .-- My secret spy satellite informs me that at 08/04/10 1:57 PM jul wrote: So, how each one has assess the impact of this on his network ? How could we check where route's propagation stop(ed) ? Thanks to Renesys and Team Cymru for the stats of how many prefixes/countries where af

Re: China prefix hijack

2010-04-08 Thread jul
I also see some of this from France. On this incident/error, even if tools like BGPMon, watchmy.net and others exactly did their roles, I asking myself if there are some other public tools which can help. CIDR returns Chinanet as the biggest announcer (but could be the case previously) 97074688

Re: China prefix hijack

2010-04-08 Thread Danny McPherson
On Apr 8, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Martin A. Brown wrote: > Just a note of confirmation that 23724 originated as many as 31847 > prefixes during an 18 minute window starting around 15:54 UTC. > They were prepending their own AS, and this is several orders of > magnitude more prefixes than they norm

AS23724 oops? was Re: China prefix hijack

2010-04-08 Thread Rob Thomas
Hi, team. Joe wrote: > Just wondering if this was a "Fat fingered" mistake or intentional... I'm thinking "oops." Looking only for prefixes with the aspath " 4134 23724 23724 ," and only on 2010-04-08 UTC, we see 15210 prefixes announced. Of those, 9598 are allocated to CN, 11017 are allocated

Re: China prefix hijack

2010-04-08 Thread Martin A. Brown
Hello, Just a note of confirmation that 23724 originated as many as 31847 prefixes during an 18 minute window starting around 15:54 UTC. They were prepending their own AS, and this is several orders of magnitude more prefixes than they normally originate. -Martin -- Martin A. Brown --- Ren

Re: China prefix hijack

2010-04-08 Thread Dan White
On 08/04/10 13:27 -0400, Joe wrote: Just wondering if this was a "Fat fingered" mistake or intentional... If it was a mistake, I hope he fares a bit better than his counterparts in other Chinese industries... -- Dan White

RE: China prefix hijack

2010-04-08 Thread Joe
Just wondering if this was a "Fat fingered" mistake or intentional... -J > -Original Message- > From: Frank Pater [mailto:fpa...@dca.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 1:20 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: China prefix hijack > > > Hi, >

Re: China prefix hijack

2010-04-08 Thread Frank Pater
Hi, We received BGPmon notifications for all of our prefixes as well. Not sure if it's relevant, but this is also announced upstream from us by 3491. Example: Possible Prefix Hijack (Code: 10) ==

Re: China prefix hijack

2010-04-08 Thread Andree Toonk
Hi Grzegorz, .-- My secret spy satellite informs me that at 08/04/10 9:33 AM Grzegorz Janoszka wrote: Just half an hour ago China Telecom hijacked one of our prefixes: Your prefix: X.Y.Z.0/19: Prefix Description: NETNAME Update time: 2010-04-08 15:58 (UTC) Detected by #peers: 1 Detected prefi

Re: China prefix hijack

2010-04-08 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:33:42 +0200, Grzegorz Janoszka said: > Your prefix: X.Y.Z.0/19: > Detected prefix: X.Y.Z.0/19 > Luckily it had to be limited as only one BGPmon peer saw it. Anyone else > noticed it? Sorry, I'm not seeing an announcement for X.Y.Z.0/19 here. pgpP4S2yd6Lg1.

Re: China prefix hijack

2010-04-08 Thread Chris McDonald
i think so yeah AS 23724 is now announcing 63.218.188.0/22 which is historically announced by ASes: 3491. Time: Thu Apr 8 16:55:02 2010 GMT Observed path: 812 174 4134 23724 23724 On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Grzegorz Janoszka wrote: > > Just half an hour ago China Telecom hijacked one of

China prefix hijack

2010-04-08 Thread Grzegorz Janoszka
Just half an hour ago China Telecom hijacked one of our prefixes: Your prefix: X.Y.Z.0/19: Prefix Description: NETNAME Update time: 2010-04-08 15:58 (UTC) Detected by #peers: 1 Detected prefix: X.Y.Z.0/19 Announced by: AS23724 (CHINANET-IDC-BJ-AP IDC, China Te