Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread -Hammer-
35.5612 ekim.it...@gmail.com (UTC-8) On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Leigh Porter wrote: -Original Message- From: -Hammer- [mailto:bhmc...@gmail.com] Sent: 12 October 2011 17:10 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affecte

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Valdis Kletnieks" > On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:47:13 PDT, "andrew.wallace" said: > > Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look > > at this perhaps being sabotage. > > It ain't sabotage till you rule out "misconfigured router". > > And

RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Brandt, Ralph
Mechanicsburg PA 17055 -Original Message- From: -Hammer- [mailto:bhmc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:52 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.) What kills me is what they have told the public. The

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Mike Gatti
0 >> To: nanog@nanog.org >> Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, >> Egypt affected (not N.A.) >> >> I have been witness to N+1 HUMAN failures but never a N+1 hardware >> failure or system/design failure that warranted questioning the

RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Leigh Porter
> -Original Message- > From: -Hammer- [mailto:bhmc...@gmail.com] > Sent: 12 October 2011 17:10 > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, > Egypt affected (not N.A.) > > I have been witness to N+1 HUMAN failures

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread -Hammer-
I have been witness to N+1 HUMAN failures but never a N+1 hardware failure or system/design failure that warranted questioning the need for N+2. Usually your N+1 failure is (as already referenced) pasting in a bad config that gets replicated or something like that. Not saying the hardware is pe

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Chris Campbell
I think it raises serious questions about RIM's DR strategy if a DB corruption or switch failure or whatever can cause this much outage. 'Surely' RIM have an second site that is independent of the primary (within reason) that they could of flipped to when they realised the DB was borked. If not

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Tayeb Meftah
Idiotberry Envoyé de mon iPhone Le 12 oct. 2011 à 17:55, Charles Mills a écrit : > +1 > On Oct 12, 2011 11:51 AM, wrote: > >> On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:52:02 CDT, -Hammer- said: >>> What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a "core >>> switch". I don't know if they actually mean

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Charles Mills
+1 On Oct 12, 2011 11:51 AM, wrote: > On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:52:02 CDT, -Hammer- said: > > What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a "core > > switch". I don't know if they actually mean network switch or not but > > I'm pretty sure any of us that work on an enterprise environme

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:52:02 CDT, -Hammer- said: > What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a "core > switch". I don't know if they actually mean network switch or not but > I'm pretty sure any of us that work on an enterprise environment know > how to factor N+1 just for these

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:47:13 PDT, "andrew.wallace" said: > Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look at this > perhaps being sabotage. It ain't sabotage till you rule out "misconfigured router". Consider the actual real-world threat models and their likelyhoods: 1) In

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Joel jaeggli
nk > > From:andrew.wallace [mailto:andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com] > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:52 PM > To: frnk...@iname.com > Cc: outa...@outages.org > Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt > affected (not N.A.) > > RI

RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Paul Stewart
: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.) Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look at this perhaps being sabotage. http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20119163-266/blackberry-service-issues-spread-to-u.s-and-canada/ Andrew

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Andrew Mulholland
gt; > From: Frank Bulk > To: outa...@outages.org > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:32 PM > Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt > affected (not N.A.) > > > And continues: > “RIM'S SERVICE OUTAGE CONTINU

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread -Hammer-
6_3-20119163-266/blackberry-service-issues-spread-to-u.s-and-canada/ Andrew From: Frank Bulk To: outa...@outages.org Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.) A

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread andrew.wallace
: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.) And continues: “RIM'S SERVICE OUTAGE CONTINUES INTO DAY 2” http://www.channelstv.com/global/news_details.php?nid=29652&cat=Politics   Frank   From:andre