Re: [NANOG] DWDM

2008-04-29 Thread Neil J. McRae
Frank, Agreed, the infinera platform is very good also. thanks for he link. Neil. -Original Message- From: Frank Coluccio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 April 2008 20:31 To: NANOG; Neil J. McRae; Frank Coluccio Subject: Re: [NANOG] DWDM ps - a 2007 updated prezo on SURFnet6's

Re: [NANOG] DWDM

2008-04-29 Thread Frank Coluccio
which although very reliable it was very resource intensive >>to deploy new services, the latest CPL technology from Nortel >>is a real breakthrough, for once a vendor has listened and understood >>the challenges for operators and actively addressed our concerns. >> >>--

Re: [NANOG] DWDM

2008-04-29 Thread Frank Coluccio
hnology from Nortel >is a real breakthrough, for once a vendor has listened and understood >the challenges for operators and actively addressed our concerns. > >-Original Message- >From: Scott E. MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED]','','','')"

Re: [NANOG] DWDM

2008-04-25 Thread Randy Bush
> Here's a map showing some of the regional optical networks > run by the R&E community. There's a lot more unrepresented ^ american > here, especially in metro environments. europe is similar. some of asia is similar. scott might better have asked what r&e communities were not dwdm.

Re: [NANOG] DWDM More Details

2008-04-25 Thread John Lee
run stuff you will pay for it. Side note, I liked your two presentations. john From: Alex Pilosov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 1:58 PM To: John Lee Cc: Scott E. MacKenzie; NANOG Subject: RE: [NANOG] DWDM More Details On Fri, 25 Apr 2008

Re: [NANOG] DWDM More Details

2008-04-25 Thread Dale W. Carder
On Apr 25, 2008, at 12:58 PM, Alex Pilosov wrote: > On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, John Lee wrote: > > I'd be curious to ask reverse question, did anyone *have* real > problems > deploying duct tape systems, or power jitter chromatic dispersion is > vendor mumbo jumbo designed to make you buy their gear?

Re: [NANOG] DWDM More Details

2008-04-25 Thread Alex Pilosov
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, John Lee wrote: > In your talk, I agree that the CAN with your CWDM is not that expensive > but you also mention that the tighter DWDM with long haul optics is > expensive ie "Everybody knows how to do (active) xWDM by giving a lot of > money to (insert vendor of choice]:" >

Re: [NANOG] DWDM More Details

2008-04-25 Thread John Lee
tt E. MacKenzie; NANOG Subject: Re: [NANOG] DWDM More Details On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, John Lee wrote: > Subscribe to Lightwave (at no charge) and look at the back issues for > networks. Show up at Supercom or OFC or what is replacing them and get the > latest on ROADM, full channel tunable

Re: [NANOG] DWDM More Details

2008-04-25 Thread Alex Pilosov
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, John Lee wrote: > Subscribe to Lightwave (at no charge) and look at the back issues for > networks. Show up at Supercom or OFC or what is replacing them and get the > latest on ROADM, full channel tunable lasers and maintenance costs. > > What size of network do you want t

Re: [NANOG] DWDM More Details

2008-04-25 Thread John Lee
ders while UDWDM and ULHWAN are aimed at trans oceanic links and are very very expensive. John (ISDN) Lee From: Scott E. MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:00 AM To: NANOG Subject: [NANOG] DWDM Does anyone know where I can locat

Re: [NANOG] DWDM

2008-04-25 Thread Dale W. Carder
On Apr 25, 2008, at 3:00 AM, Scott E. MacKenzie wrote: > Does anyone know where I can locate a list of DWDM networks > deployed for > Education, Science & Research, and Commercialization? Here's a map showing some of the regional optical networks run by the R&E community. There's a lot more unr

Re: [NANOG] DWDM

2008-04-25 Thread Neil J. McRae
d our concerns. -Original Message- From: Scott E. MacKenzie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:00 AM To: NANOG Subject: [NANOG] DWDM Does anyone know where I can locate a list of DWDM networks deployed for Education, Science & Research, and Commercialization? W

Re: [NANOG] DWDM

2008-04-25 Thread Kevin Barrass
: 25 April 2008 13:17 To: 'Scott E. MacKenzie'; 'NANOG' Subject: Re: [NANOG] DWDM www.nlr.net www.internet2.edu These are the major players in the Education RONS that are self owned and managed. The nlr site will show the regional Robert D. Scott [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [NANOG] DWDM

2008-04-25 Thread Robert D. Scott
CNS Receptionist University of Florida 352-392-9440 FAX Florida Lambda Rail 352-294-3571 FLR NOC Gainesville, FL 32611 -Original Message- From: Scott E. MacKenzie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:00 AM To: NANOG Subject: [NANOG] DWDM Does

Re: [NANOG] DWDM

2008-04-25 Thread Randy Bush
Scott E. MacKenzie wrote: > Does anyone know where I can locate a list of DWDM networks deployed for > Education, Science & Research, and Commercialization? > > We need to determine the practicality of DWDM use... you seem to have missed menog unfortunately. you may want to come to the afren mee

[NANOG] DWDM

2008-04-25 Thread Scott E. MacKenzie
Does anyone know where I can locate a list of DWDM networks deployed for Education, Science & Research, and Commercialization? We need to determine the practicality of DWDM use... Scott ___ NANOG mailing list NANOG@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/