Re: [NANOG] Alcatel

2008-05-14 Thread Scott Weeks
t guys has ever mentioned SAM when trying to figure something with them out on the CLI, but I do have to agree SAM suks compared to self-written .pl code. scott --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "Paul Wall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dan Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> C

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel

2008-05-14 Thread John Menerick
I have been using the 7750/7450 in a couple of my production environments. I have to say this: AMAZING. I have had very little problems with these machines. Their support has been amazing. I would recommend these machines to anyone. Beware of the price though. You def. get what you pay for wit

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel

2008-05-14 Thread Aaron Glenn
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Nicolas Antoniello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, I agree with you, may be I didn't explain myself clear: I meant "neutral" > in the sense > of relation with each other (i.e. Not being hostile). hopefully we're all big boys and girls and can identify a strong o

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel

2008-05-14 Thread Nicolas Antoniello
; Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:53 PM > To: Paul Wall > Cc: Dan Snyder; nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: [NANOG] Alcatel > > I think we should keep this list as much neutral as we may regarding > individual preferences. > > Why some of you keep writing offensive mails to

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel

2008-05-14 Thread Tim Sanderson
Message- From: Nicolas Antoniello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:53 PM To: Paul Wall Cc: Dan Snyder; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: [NANOG] Alcatel I think we should keep this list as much neutral as we may regarding individual preferences. Why some of you keep writing

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel

2008-05-14 Thread Nicolas Antoniello
I think we should keep this list as much neutral as we may regarding individual preferences. Why some of you keep writing offensive mails to those who write neutral ones or to those who know less than what you THINK you know. Have you heard about: "All we are ignorants, the thing is that we ig

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel

2008-05-14 Thread Paul Wall
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Dan Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about Alcatel's MPLS edge routers like the 7x50 products that > came from Timetra...anyone have any experience with them? Are they a > good product? Garbage, the 7750/7450 are complete junk boxes. Here is why... - For

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel-Lucent

2008-05-14 Thread michael.dillon
> Hopefully... ;-) Not likely! This is a motley crew of people who like to jabber, not a forum for your favorite vendor's customer support. > I want to be able to carry IPv6 in a VPRN without having to > pay an order of magnitude more for an IOM. May I suggest that you will make much more im

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel-Lucent

2008-05-13 Thread Kevin Billings
To run IPV6 on a 7750 you will need the new IOM 2 cards. They do cost a few $$$ more... -Original Message- From: Scott Weeks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NANOG] Alcatel-Lucent --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel

2008-05-13 Thread Kevin Billings
uters providing MPLS and Internet services to our customers. Works great for us... -Original Message- From: Scott Weeks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:01 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: [NANOG] Alcatel --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll chime in and sa

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel-Lucent

2008-05-13 Thread Scott Weeks
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Nathan Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ask for a v6 roadmap. Last time I looked (~ a year ago) there were some strange limitations, for example, a surprisingly small max v6 routing table. --- Hopefully... ;-) I want to be able

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel-Lucent

2008-05-13 Thread Nathan Ward
On 14/05/2008, at 10:37 AM, Phil Bedard wrote: > The 5260 is actually a decent NMS > which is something I never thought I'd say about a NMS, although the > pricing model isn't very good. Yeah, I'll agree with that. I've raved about the 5620SAM (not to be confused with the 5620NM, which manage

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel

2008-05-13 Thread Scott Weeks
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll chime in and say that the 7450/7750 are very nice boxes. Their non-stop routing feature is something that other vendors are barely starting to support, years after they started doing it. Now they are --- Thi

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel

2008-05-13 Thread Phil Bedard
I'll chime in and say that the 7450/7750 are very nice boxes. Their non-stop routing feature is something that other vendors are barely starting to support, years after they started doing it. Now they are onto features like cross-chassis 802.3ad, etc. that no one else is doing in a SP ro

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel

2008-05-13 Thread Todd Baumgartner
he platform. And if you >> are still unsure I strongly recommend this box. >> >> Neil. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Dan Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: 13 May 2008 18:16 >> To: nanog@nanog.org >> Subject: [NANOG] Alcate

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel

2008-05-13 Thread Scott Weeks
-Original Message- From: Joe Abley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 13 May 2008, at 14:22, Scott Weeks wrote: > puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp , I think. There are some archives, but it's not what I would call a busy list. --

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel

2008-05-13 Thread Scott Weeks
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- ...Not even minor bugs -> no bugs nada ziltch negatory nien etc. -- I could not agree with this statement. I recall a bug or two, but we've not been using them for over a year, so I can't speak to the long term. ---

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel

2008-05-13 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Joe Abley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 13 May 2008, at 14:22, Scott Weeks wrote: > >> puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > > , I think. There > are some archives, but it's not what I would call a busy list. Having recently dea

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel

2008-05-13 Thread Nicolas Antoniello
won't sacrafice the quality of the platform. And if you > are still unsure I strongly recommend this box. > > Neil. > > -Original Message- > From: Dan Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 13 May 2008 18:16 > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: [NANOG] Alca

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel

2008-05-13 Thread Neil J. McRae
Not many problems to talk about :) -Original Message- From: Joe Abley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 13 May 2008 19:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NANOG] Alcatel On 13 May 2008, at 14:22, Scott Weeks wrote: > puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-ns

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel

2008-05-13 Thread Joe Abley
On 13 May 2008, at 14:22, Scott Weeks wrote: > puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp , I think. There are some archives, but it's not what I would call a busy list. Joe ___ NANOG mailing

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel

2008-05-13 Thread Neil J. McRae
l unsure I strongly recommend this box. Neil. -Original Message- From: Dan Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 13 May 2008 18:16 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: [NANOG] Alcatel Anyone use Alcatel switches in their network...like the 6850 omniswitch? What are your thoughts on them? What a

Re: [NANOG] Alcatel

2008-05-13 Thread Scott Weeks
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "Dan Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anyone use Alcatel switches in their network...like the 6850 omniswitch? What are your thoughts on them? What about Alcatel's MPLS edge routers like the 7x50 products that came from Timetra...anyone have any experience with the

[NANOG] Alcatel

2008-05-13 Thread Dan Snyder
Anyone use Alcatel switches in their network...like the 6850 omniswitch? What are your thoughts on them? What about Alcatel's MPLS edge routers like the 7x50 products that came from Timetra...anyone have any experience with them? Are they a good product? Thanks, Dan